Hello, Today, I tried and installed the new Bluebottle. I get a marvellous blue-magenta screen with a working mouse cursor, but no more. The screen is completely empty. I give below my Aos.par file. Can you tell me what happens and what I can do? Thanks. Gérard # Aos config strings # You must correctly configure at least section 1 below. The other sections have reasonable defaults. # To boot with noboot.exe from DOS (IDE or Adaptec 7xxx SCSI): # c:\native> noboot.exe AosIDE.Bin Aos.Par # For an Adaptec 7xxx SCSI driver, use AosAda7.Bin instead of AosIDE.Bin # To make a bootable partition or Diskette (from Native Oberon or Aos), use the following commands: # Partitions.UpdateBootFile IDE0#01 AOS:AosIDE.Bin ~ # Partitions.SetConfig IDE0#01 # Partitions.UpdateBootFile Diskette0#0 AOS:AosIDE.Bin ~ # Partitions.SetConfig Diskette0#0 # Add "~" at end of this text, so that SetConfig can read its parameters directly here. # --- 1. BOOT PARTITION # Boot device and partition number BootVol1="AOS AosFS IDE2#1" AosFS="AosDiskVolumes.New AosDiskFS.NewFS" # --- 2. DISPLAY DRIVER # VESA 2.0/3.0 display driver (1024x768x16, @60Hz only, unless Init string is changed) Boot="AosDisplayLinear" Init="bb1741b8024fcd10b8014fb91701cd10268b4d28268b552a" DWidth="1024" DHeight="768" DDepth="16" DMem="2048" # 0010 BB1741 mov bx,0x4117 # 0013 B8024F mov ax,0x4f02 # 0016 CD10 int 0x10 # 0000 B8014F mov ax,0x4f01 # 0003 B91701 mov cx,0x117 # 0006 CD10 int 0x10 # 0008 268B4D28 mov cx,[es:di+0x28] # 000C 268B552A mov dx,[es:di+0x2a] # VESA 2.0/3.0 display driver (1280x768x16 @70Hz) #Boot="AosDisplayLinear" #Init="b80b4fbb0000ba1a0166b90085af07cd1026c705c00626c74502580526c74504e0052 6c745062a0426c74508010426c7450a040426c6450c042666894d0d26c74511581bb8024fbb1 a49cd10b8014fb91a01cd10268b4d28268b552a" #DWidth="1280" #DHeight="1024" #DDepth="16" #DMem="4096" # VESA 2.0/3.0 display driver (1280x768x16 @60Hz) #Boot="AosDisplayLinear" #Init="b8024fbb1a41cd10b8014fb91a01cd10268b4d28268b552a" #DWidth="1280" #DHeight="1024" #DDepth="16" #DMem="4096" # 3Dlabs Permedia2 display driver #Boot="AosDisplayPermedia2" #DWidth="1024" #DHeight="768" #DDepth="16" #DMem="2048" #DRefresh="60" # S3 Aurora64 display driver (800x600x8 only, unless Init string is changed) #Boot="AosS3Aurora64" #Init="bb0301b8024fcd10ba00e0b90000" #DWidth="800" #DHeight="600" #DDepth="8" # ATI Mach64 (e.g. Rage Pro) display driver (1024x768x16, 60Hz for LCD display) #Boot="AosDisplayLinear" #Init="b815a0b3008cc233ffcd1026800e040004b815a0b3018cc233ffcd10b802a0b98455c d10b805a0b101cd10b806a0cd108bd3c1e20433c9" #DWidth="1024" #DHeight="768" #DDepth="16" #DMem="2048" # --- 3. ADDITIONAL DRIVERS #Boot1="AosKeyboard;AosMousePS2" Boot1="AosKeyboard;AosMouseSerial" # USB Mouse #Boot1="AosKeyboard;AosMousePS2;AosUsbUhci.Init;UsbMousePoller.Start" # --- 4. STARTUP APPLICATIONS # Aos 2D Menu Boot2="WMDecorate.Install;WMStyle.Install;WMM.OpenMenu" # or 3D menu #Boot2="W3dMenu.Open W3dMenu.XML;WMM.Install" # Autostart executes commands in AosConfig.XML's "Autostart" section Boot3="Autostart.Run" # or Oberon for Aos in full-screen mode (remove Boot3 from above!) #Boot2="AosOberonInput;System.Init" # Boot Oberon with Aos Menu at startup #BootSystem="AosDisplayWM.Install Oberon 900x700;System.Init Oberon" # --- 5. NETWORK DRIVER # No network driver LinkDevice="Unknown" # 3Com 3C90x EtherLink XL 10/100Mbps ethernet driver # 3C90xMedia: 1=10Base-T, 5=100Base-TX (3C900), 6=100Base-RX, 9=auto # 3C90xDuplex: 0=preset, 1=half-duplex, 2=full-duplex #LinkDevice="Aos3Com90x" # Only set following if default does not work #3C90xMedia="9" #3C90xDuplex="2" # 3Com 3C509 EtherLink III 10Mbps ethernet driver #LinkDevice="Aos3Com509" # RTL 8139 10/100Mbps ethernet driver #LinkDevice="AosRTL8139" # --- 6. TCP/IP NETWORK PARAMETERS # (if LocalIP is not defined, BOOTP is attempted) #LocalIP="129.132.134.xx" #LocalName = "xxx.inf.ethz.ch" #Netmask="255.255.255.0" #Gateway="129.132.134.1" #Domain="inf.ethz.ch" #DNS0="129.132.98.12" #DNS1 = "129.132.250.220" #DNS2 = "129.132.250.2" # --- 7. MISCELLANEOUS # Keyboard table options: System.Directory Key*.Bin #Keyboard="KeyCH.Bin" # TraceMode: 1=screen, 2=waitkey, 4=v24 (additive) #TraceMode="4" #TracePort="1" #TraceBPS="38400" #TraceMem="0B8000H,80,25" # Additional tracing #TraceHeap="0" #TraceHeap="4096" # Disk cache size in 4KB units (make negative to enable write-back caching) CacheSize="1000" # Profiling and timeslicing timer rate in Hz (default 1000) #TimerRate=1000 # To enable Ctrl as emulation of the mouse middle button #MB="2" # Automatic power management (APM) must be disabled APM="0" # Disable the primary IDE controller #IDE0="0" # Limit the number of processors recognized (set negative for single-processor emulation) #MaxProcs="1" # Set watchdog timer for Oberon.Loop in seconds #OberonWatch="0" ATABM="0" Keyboard="KeyFR.Bin" ~ uncomment this line when using Partitions.SetConfig
Today, I tried and installed the new Bluebottle. I get a marvellous blue-magenta screen with a working mouse cursor, but no more. The screen is completely empty. I give below my Aos.par file. Can you tell me what happens and what I can do? Change Boot2 to: Boot2=MM.Open Menu.XML
Then everything should be fine. (There is a different (temporary) menu in this release) --Thomas
Today, I tried and installed the new Bluebottle. I get a marvellous blue-magenta screen with a working mouse cursor, but no more. The screen is completely empty. I give below my Aos.par file. Can you tell me what happens and what I can do? Change Boot2 to: Boot2=MM.Open Menu.XML
Then everything should be fine. (There is a different (temporary) menu in this release)
--Thomas
Thanks Thomas, It works well. But my computer seems now a little too slow (125MHz, an "old" machine, that I dedicated to Oberon and Bluebottle). Happy new year. Gérard
Hello, At last I installed Bluebottle on my main 600MHz PC, and, now it's usable, even if it is rather slow. I appreciate the interface, the zoom, the resizing of windows (but not the resizing of fonts) and the clearness of drawings. I'm not sure I like the resizing of the mouse cursor. But, in short, very interesting. Bravo! I got an error when I tried to mount other volumes: OFSTools incompatible with AosFS/Enumerator I suppose there are some modules that are to be recompiled. Regards. Gérard
t last I installed Bluebottle on my main 600MHz PC, and, now it's usable, even if it is rather slow. Only the 1:1 case is optimzed. The zoomed drawing still has huge potential ;-)
I appreciate the interface, the zoom, the resizing of windows (but not the resizing of fonts) and the clearness of drawings. I'm not sure I like the resizing of the mouse cursor. I am also not sure about the cursor. Some different possibilities will be examined this year.
I got an error when I tried to mount other volumes:
OFSTools incompatible with AosFS/Enumerator
I suppose there are some modules that are to be recompiled. That's strange. All the files on the CD image have been compiled just before the image was created. Have you installed it on top of an existing installation ? (Errors during the installation ?)
--Thomas
t last I installed Bluebottle on my main 600MHz PC, and, now it's usable, even if it is rather slow. Only the 1:1 case is optimzed. The zoomed drawing still has huge potential ;-)
Yes, I was playing with the interface today, and, even if it is slow, it's very pleasant. By the way, I wrote a little text in the editor. I saved it, but couldn't open it in Oberon later. Tricks? The editor saw it, but not Oberon.
I got an error when I tried to mount other volumes:
OFSTools incompatible with AosFS/Enumerator
I suppose there are some modules that are to be recompiled. That's strange. All the files on the CD image have been compiled just before the image was created. Have you installed it on top of an existing installation ? (Errors during the installation ?)
Yes, it was an update. I noticed nothing during installation, but I paid no much attention. I'll try again. If some thing must be erased before, which files do you suggest?
Yes, I was playing with the interface today, and, even if it is slow, it's very pleasant. By the way, I wrote a little text in the editor. I saved it, but couldn't open it in Oberon later. Tricks? The editor saw it, but not Oberon. Maybe there is an export problem. Can you open it with Hex.Open ? Oberon Text-Format is not the internal format of the Editor. Internally it works with Unicode (TestEditor.Mod only exports loading and saving in Oberon format). I will have a look at it, next week.
Yes, it was an update. I noticed nothing during installation, but I paid no much attention. I'll try again. If some thing must be erased before, which files do you suggest? Some files like AText.Mod/.Obx WMXMLComponents.Mod/.Obx WMM.Mod/.Obx can be removed but there is no need to do this except for diskspace and cleanup.
--Thomas
By the way, I wrote a little text in the editor. I saved it, but couldn't open it in Oberon later. Tricks? The editor saw it, but not Oberon. Maybe there is an export problem. Can you open it with Hex.Open ? Oberon Text-Format is not the internal format of the Editor. Internally it works with Unicode (TestEditor.Mod only exports loading and saving in Oberon format). I will have a look at it, next week.
I tried again this manipulation but didn't get the same problem. So...
Yes, it was an update. I noticed nothing during installation, but I paid no much attention. I'll try again. If some thing must be erased before, which files do you suggest? Some files like AText.Mod/.Obx WMXMLComponents.Mod/.Obx WMM.Mod/.Obx can be removed but there is no need to do this except for diskspace and cleanup.
After reinstallation, I got the same problem. I recompiled OFSTools and, after that, no more problem. Very strange. If I wish to read some doc about Bluebottle, where is the entry point? Could you give any links, inside or outside the release? Regards. Gérard
Yes, it was an update. I noticed nothing during installation, but I
I just installed the latest release and everything went fine. Thanks Thomas for the excellent work! paid
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much attention. I'll try again. If some thing must be erased before, which files do you suggest? Some files like AText.Mod/.Obx WMXMLComponents.Mod/.Obx WMM.Mod/.Obx can be removed but there is no need to do this except for diskspace and cleanup.
After reinstallation, I got the same problem. I recompiled OFSTools and, after that, no more problem. Very strange.
For some reasons, the last files of AosOberon.zip are missing. In fact, they are in the zip file, but Oberon's zip application stops after Zip.Obx and forgets the last few files including OFSTools.Obx. OFSTools.Mod is part of the release, so recompiling it do the job.
If I wish to read some doc about Bluebottle, where is the entry point? Could you give any links, inside or outside the release?
There is some documentation available on www.bluebottle.ethz.ch; if you are looking for more insights that you could have a look at Pieter's dissertation (available in pdf on his homepage). -Patrik -------- Patrik Reali http://www.inf.ethz.ch/personal/reali http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/jaos
For some reasons, the last files of AosOberon.zip are missing. In fact, they are in the zip file, but Oberon's zip application stops after Zip.Obx
Coincidence?
and forgets the last few files including OFSTools.Obx.
OFSTools.Mod is part of the release, so recompiling it do the job.
If I wish to read some doc about Bluebottle, where is the entry point? Could you give any links, inside or outside the release?
There is some documentation available on www.bluebottle.ethz.ch; if you are looking for more insights that you could have a look at Pieter's dissertation (available in pdf on his homepage).
Thanks.
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