Just quickly, There is more feedback, because the tutorial features its own feedback form at the end of each chapter (we could have thought of this, by the way). I will forward the feedback from those forms to this mailing list as soon as I find some 30 minutes to go through them. According to Lukas there is "very positive" feedback coming in through that channel. Best regards Hermann
On 08 Sep 2016, at 18:14, Felix Friedrich <felix.friedrich@inf.ethz.ch> wrote:
Dear all,
as promised here is the collection of student feedback regarding the tutorial. Unfortunately (but not really unexpectedly), not all students have yet filled in the C++ tutorial feedback (only 3).
Not much statistics available. From the three students I "learn" that (a) Students have no or only very little experience with programming, consider themselves a bit better than average with working with the computers and have had about 1 year of Informatik courses at schools. (b) Parts 1 and 2 (Tutorial Overview / Expressions and Statements) of the tutorial were considered rather a bit too simple and between "boring" and "interesting but required". (c) Parts 3 and 4 (Variables and Numeric Operators) were considered interesting and exactly right in difficulty. (d) Part 5 (Control Structures) was considered very interesting and motivating and exactly right in difficulty.
I think we should send the feedback form also to all other students when we invite them to the tutorial next week (!).
Now some detailed feedbacks from the emails. This should be addressed before Monday:
(1) On Slide 9: We did not distinguish between an "arithmetic expression" and and "expression". But we ask the students to count the number of arithmetic expressions. I suggest to introduce something like this: For the purpose of this tutorial, an arithmetic expression is either a primary expression of number type or a composite expressions involving one of the operators "+", "-", "/" and "%" and operands that themselves are arithmetic expressions.
(2) On Slide 13: the Celsius to Fahrenheit program. We ask the students to look up the formula in the internet -- which I find a very good idea. However, they found the formula also as f = c * 1.8 + 32 and that does not provide the problem that we want them to observe. So, in this case we have to provide the formula.
(3) On Slide 12 and 20: There are some return 0 missing in the code examples. Please make sure that all code examples contain return 0 in the main function.
(4) On Slide 18: the age test is using age > 16 but indeed you are allowed to drink beer with 16. So it should be age >= 16 instead
(5) In the beer related tasks the word "bier" appears instead of "beer".
(6) The tutorial was not accessible via the ET homepage. This was intended for now but it should be accessible to the students (and, basically, the public with ETH access) from next week.
Please don't forget to mirror any changes in the repo. Suggestion: Change the original and when finished copy the text into the file and SVN commit.
Best Felix
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