August 2002 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

Assembler Documentation
by Jacques Eloff 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Hello all I've just updated the built-in assembler documentation at http://www.cs.sun.ac.za/courses/pregrad/rw252/op2_asm.html The following have been added/modified: - The section entitled "Dynamic Variables" has been updated to deal with dynamic arrays. Pieter, please let me know if the information regarding the usage of the SysBlk is correct. - Two additional examples have also been added. The first illustrates ranked insertion for linked lists and the second is a trivial piece of code to determine if an integer value is a power of 2. Please contact me if there are any errors. I'm slowly getting round to covering the various heap structures for dynamic variables. The others will be added as soon as I have time. Regards -- Jacques Eloff Department of Computer Science University of Stellenbosch http://www.cs.sun.ac.za/~eloff

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Voyager beta 1
by Felix Friedrich 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Hello everybody, I have just uploaded the recent version of Voyager (Beta 1) to the ftp-incoming directory. G.Sawitzki (Heidelberg) has asked me to do so. Would you please transport the file to the appropriate directory? Seh geehrte Damen und Herren, Gerade habe ich auf Bitte von G.Sawitzki aus HD die neueste Version von Voyager nach ftp/incoming gelegt. Könnten Sie diese bitte an die entsprechende Stelle weiterleiten? Diese Version von Voyager sollte unter fast (wahrscheinlich nicht MacOSx,x <10) allen Oberon-Varianten kompilierbar sein. freundliche Grüße sendet Felix Friedrich. -- Felix Friedrich Institut für Biomathematik und Biometrie GSF - Forschungszentrum für Umwelt und Gesundheit, GmbH Ingolstädter Landstraße 1, D-85764 Neuherberg Tel: ++49 89 3187 2436 email: friedrich(a)gsf.de --

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default system font
by Charles Angelich 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Is there an easy way to reset the default system font to Oberon8.Scn.Fnt? If this was arranged to be read from Oberon.Text as other setting are it might make legacy compatibility less complex or at the very least it would make existing viewer panel `buttons' accessible with multiple clicks to "grow" and then "close" each time there is a need to "Store" the viewer. Even better would be to include the setting of the default text size to oberon8.Scn.Fnt when lesser video modes are selected during the install process? At 1024x768 I would want the reverse, myself, to a slightly larger font than Oberon10.Scn.Fnt. (I do also have a 1024x768 install of Native Oberon here). I know troubles troubles troubles. Point me to the modules and I'll try to do this myself. Charles Angelich The Ghost in the Machine! DOS and W31 Tech website: http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost Stories, poems, music, and photos website: http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/faf

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reserved three letter prefix
by Charles Angelich 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Was scanning the ETH website and found a list of reserved three letter prefix for Oberon apps. I was thinking it would be more efficient, considering the already long list of reserved prefix, to create categories of software applications and reserve _those_? Rather than break the existing arrangement these could be four letter categories to use as a prefix taked onto whatever other words are descriptive of the modules contents? The three letter reserved words look like a potential runaway requiring an online database to be certain no one has reserved your first three letters. ;-) Charles Angelich The Ghost in the Machine! DOS and W31 Tech website: http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost Stories, poems, music, and photos website: http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/faf

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Re: [Oberon] too many versions of Oberon (4me)
by Thomas Knecht 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

08.08.2002 12:00:10, Greg Haynes <haynes(a)pcisys.net> wrote: >The biggest disadvantage of V4 is that there is no development >and almost no support. True, unfortunately. About V4.0-2.2 on NT (last Linz V4 version, afaik, dated 1997) just two hints on what might beginners get stumbled: A "MOD 100" operation has to be added in Texts.WriteDate and StampElems.Format to get year 2000 decently displayed. In PopupElems.SelectMenu some code to slow down scrolling needs to be inserted to adapt to speed of nowadays hardware. Thomas.

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online!
by cangelich＠famvid.com 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Confusing but Oberon/Native/Beta 08.12.00 is online using COM4. I guess the sys admin at my ISP was wrong. They do PAP authentication after all. :-) Charles.Angelich

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online!
by cangelich＠famvid.com 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Confusing but Oberon/Native/Beta 08.12.00 is online using COM4. I guess the sys admin at my ISP was wrong. They do PAP authentication after all. :-) Charles.Angelich

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Screen shot Native/Beta 08.12.00
by Charles Angelich 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Anyone interested in what I see here on my 640x480 screen? Took a snapshot while online browsing at my tech website. http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/grafix/snapsh2.gif You can see that I shrunk the toolbars text on the System.Tool and System.Log viewers to Oberon8.Scn.Fnt but missed a few characters on each one. LOL I've added some often-used commands to the System.Tool viewer that I will move into MyStuff.Tool now that I've got the authentication with my ISP working. :-) Charles Angelich The Ghost in the Machine! DOS and W31 Tech website: http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost Stories, poems, music, and photos website: http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/faf

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Re: [Oberon] comp.lang.oberon
by fischer＠inf.ethz.ch 12 Aug '02

12 Aug '02

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 Charles Angelich <cangelich(a)famvid.com> wrote: > Why/how do all the messages posted at comp.lang.oberon just > disappear after a few days? The number of messages retained by each news server is probably dictated by the posting date + a retention period The retention period is a parameter of the particular server.

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beginners only
by cglur＠onwe.co.za 12 Aug '02

12 Aug '02

Ghost wrote: > If none of the above could anyone tell me what needs to be added to the > Alpha Install Oberon0.dsk image file to allow installing Alpha to a > DOS FAT file (loopback)? I'm willing to give it a try but am not certain > what needs to be added to allow this option for Native/Alpha. > After the stable Ver 2.3.6, the beta & alpha main new features are the ability to access multiple partitions. The main advantage of DOSbased is that users don't need to mess with the existing partition(s). Since beta & alpha versions need their own partition(s), it seems pointless to spend effort to make DOSbased versions. You should be using Ver 2.3.6, IMHO. > I'm slowly reading the "Companion" installed documentation files. I found > a way to get beyond that compiler graphic in chapter 2 that locks the > scroll. I use the MM to get an absolute position past the graphic. :-) You "found" after at least twice being instructed !? > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 04:28:29 > The references to the "PPP={}" routine seem circular to me? > > This: NetSystem.SetUser pap:cglur:<my password>@PPP ~ > > Seems to be referencing the dialer script? I don't understand > this. > > Same thing here: Dialer.Dial PPP Device0 ~ > > The "PPP" location is for the <provider>. I don't get it? PPP is complicated. I just hope that the setup instructions can be followed to succeed, without being understood. ========================== > Was reading the "Companion" book installed with Native Oberon Beta > and found the command EditTools.ChangeColor { old => new } ~. > > Question: Where are the color NUMBERS given? I looked in the > corresponding EditTools.Tool and no chart was there for the > numbers to substitute for the colors. :-\ If I wanted to know this I might try: Desktops.OpenDoc Find.Panel ~ with "olor" ? or olour" in Chapter*.Text Or Find.Domain with Find.All ^ But for users (vs. programmers) n-o is very 'visual' = 'just do it' ! In my personal Tool I've got: Script.ChangeColor 5 1 = red, 2= grn, 3= blu 5=yellow which reminds me of some values. I only use this when I don't have the required color AND script on my 'pallette'. The 'pallette' is my personal Tool (C.Tool) which is 'decorated' with various colors and fonts. So when you want to change color & font of some text {VERY POWERFULL FOR 'COKI PENNING' YOUR OWN NOTES/TUTORS}, just select the destination and 'dab the pallette' via: ML interclick MR, at the source! -- Chris Glur.

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