March 2024 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

Re: [Oberon] Export of Oberon Mail.SendCmd().
by Joerg 30 Oct '26

30 Oct '26

Generally, re-using code instead of copying is a good approach. If you do so, then the whole code of Mail is imported in News. Possible but perhaps there is even a better approach to re-use code. What about this: try to separate all common code in an own module (e.g call it Communication.Mod or MsgBase.Mod or Utilities.Mod or so) and import this new module in Mail and in News. br Jörg > Am 14.06.2023 um 19:53 schrieb peter(a)easthope.ca: > > Hello again, > > Several procedures in Mail are used in Oberon News. Rg.: > Mail.ParseContent(), Mail.DecodeMessage() & Mail.GetSetting(). > > Is export of SendCmd() and use in News objectionable? > Ie. in Mail, change PROCEDURE SendCmd(...) to PROCEDURE SendCmd*(...). > > Thanks, ... P. > > - > mobile: +1 778 951 5147 > VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon

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by Robert Lewis 01 Apr '24

01 Apr '24

i have installed Aos oberon with the realtek 8169 nic and installed the driver using Aos command but using the pet module for network, i am not seeing the card details. i tried to place the ip addr, dns addr, netmask, manually using configuration.XML but web browser fails to connect ..please detail how to do networking connectivity.

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Eigen Compiler Suite
by Florian Negele 23 Mar '24

23 Mar '24

Hello The latest version of the Eigen Compiler Suite [1], a portable software development toolchain that features a fully compliant Oberon-2 front-end [2], is available for download and does no longer need registration in case anyone is interested in giving it a try: https://software.openbrace.org/projects/ecs/files Regards Florian [1] https://ecs.openbrace.org/ [2] https://ecs.openbrace.org/manual/oberon.html

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Re: [Oberon] Active Oberon in Debian 12. Was "UnixAos in Debian 12".
by peter＠easthope.ca 23 Mar '24

23 Mar '24

peter at easthope.ca peter at easthope.ca Sun Mar 17 16:03:25 CET 2024 > Updated the 64 bit machine to Debian 12.5 and tried UnixAos 9799 > again. > > This is from the initiating terminal. > > root at imager:~# aos > LinuxA2 Gen. 64-bit, rev.9799 > X11 Display depth = 24 > > http://easthope.ca/UnixAosInDebian12.5.jpg is a screenshot. A few modules had been revised and compiled in the working directory. Deleting those allowed UnixAos revision.10272 to work in Debian 12.5. Then the altered modules could be compiled again. Still don't have F1, F2 and Delete working in the Oberon subsystem of 10272. Commenting out "Hotkey support" in Configuration.XML doesn't fix that. Nor does commenting out the relevant entries in HotKeys.XML. Puzzling that keys work in the subsystem of 9799 without adjustment of configuration but not in the subsystem of 10272. Side effect topic: Guenter's UnixAos and git based A2 are different enough that covering both in https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/A2 may confuse. Better to make a page for each? Thanks ... P.L. -- VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 work: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope

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Re (2): Oberon Digest, Vol 238, Issue 7
by peter＠easthope.ca 19 Mar '24

19 Mar '24

Hello Daniel, From: Daniel Schmid <daniel.schmid(a)bluemail.ch> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 09:51:31 +0100 > Now i have to excuse not to have mentioned that in Debian it's the > Linux64 version (or Linux32 on 32bit cpu) of Active Oberon one should > select, do not know what is the state of UnixAOS (maybe outdated). Understood. Thanks. Since the change from SVN to Git I haven't made a serious attempt to use A2. Working with UnixAos in the past, a self-iinflicted difficulty was to leave an existing Configuration.XML when installing a new A2. In a few instances that prevented the new release from working properly. Now I know to try a new UnixAos with the distributed Configuration.XML before adding my adjustments. When there is time, will clone the Git archive and try A2 from that. Thanks, ... P.L. -- VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 work: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope

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Re: [Oberon] Oberon Digest, Vol 238, Issue 7
by Daniel Schmid 19 Mar '24

19 Mar '24

Dear Peter Now i have to excuse not to have mentioned that in Debian it's the Linux64 version (or Linux32 on 32bit cpu) of Active Oberon one should select, do not know what is the state of UnixAOS (maybe outdated). Best regrads Daniel On Mon, 2024-03-18 at 12:00 +0100, oberon-request(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch wrote: > Send Oberon mailing list submissions to > oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oberon-request(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oberon-owner(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Oberon digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Active Oberon in Debian 12 (peter(a)easthope.ca) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > Message: 1 > Date: 17 Mar 2024 08:03:25 -0700 > From: peter(a)easthope.ca > To: oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch > Subject: Re: [Oberon] Active Oberon in Debian 12 > Message-ID: <mailman.20.1710759602.37983.oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch> > > From: Daniel Schmid <daniel.schmid(a)bluemail.ch> > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:32:07 +0100 > > Have official A2 Oberon from > > https://gitlab.inf.ethz.ch/felixf/oberon > > installed in Debian 12 "Bookworm" (64 bit version) and it's running > > stable since >0.5 yr. > > Updated the 64 bit machine to Debian 12.5 and tried UnixAos 9799 > again. > > This is from the initiating terminal. > > root@imager:~# aos > LinuxA2 Gen. 64-bit, rev.9799 > X11 Display depth = 24 > > http://easthope.ca/UnixAosInDebian12.5.jpg is a screenshot. Has > anyone > encountered a similar display? > > Next weekend can try UnixAos 10272. > > Thanks, ... P.L. >

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Re: [Oberon] Active Oberon in Debian 12
by peter＠easthope.ca 17 Mar '24

17 Mar '24

From: Daniel Schmid <daniel.schmid(a)bluemail.ch> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:32:07 +0100 > Have official A2 Oberon from https://gitlab.inf.ethz.ch/felixf/oberon > installed in Debian 12 "Bookworm" (64 bit version) and it's running > stable since >0.5 yr. Updated the 64 bit machine to Debian 12.5 and tried UnixAos 9799 again. This is from the initiating terminal. root@imager:~# aos LinuxA2 Gen. 64-bit, rev.9799 X11 Display depth = 24 http://easthope.ca/UnixAosInDebian12.5.jpg is a screenshot. Has anyone encountered a similar display? Next weekend can try UnixAos 10272. Thanks, ... P.L. -- VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 work: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope

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Emulating Project Oberon's RISC5 Architecture using Icarus Verilog
by Elen Edain 16 Mar '24

16 Mar '24

Hello and Greetings from Iceland, I am currently undertaking a project to simulate the Project Oberon RISC5 system architecture using Icarus Verilog, aiming to replicate the system’s environment in a manner similar to QEMU for educational exploration. This endeavor is inspired by Niklaus Wirth's educational vision, focusing on understanding system design comprehensively. Despite progress, I've encountered a challenge with emulating specific FPGA modules (originally on a Digilent Spartan 3 board), notably the DCM, RAM16X1D, and IOBUF modules, as a software simulation. This aspect falls beyond my expertise as a software engineer, primarily dealing with hardware emulation nuances. Thus I am on a learning journey as well and it is early days. I am seeking the community's expertise and advice on simulating these FPGA modules in Verilog, to further develop a detailed tutorial aligned with Wirth's original documentation, thereby eliminating the dependency on the original FPGA board. The ultimate aim is to produce a contemporary, step-by-step guide for working through the Project Oberon ecosystem without the need for the original FPGA board. Any advice, resources, or guidance on where to start with these hardware component emulations would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Elen

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Re: [Oberon] Re (2): Oberon Digest, Vol 238, Issue 4
by Jack Johnson 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

I haven't seen the ray tracer since I was in a single-core, 32-bit machine, I think! :) On Thu, Mar 14, 2024, 7:16 AM <peter(a)easthope.ca> wrote: > Hello Soren, > > From: Soren Renner <soren.renner(a)gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 07:34:55 -0400 > > I am not currently working with it but I have run A2 on debian unstable > 64 > > bit within the past year. > > Thanks. Will give it a try. > > > Have you seen the raytracer I coded? It runs in > > real time, 30+ fps, using only the CPU. (The more cores the better!) > > > > https://github.com/harrisonpartch/spasim > > > > https://youtu.be/4qDfk9Oe85E > > I appreciate your years of effort but have yet to see the ray tracer. > If there is time this week, will look. May have to defer. > > Thanks for your reply, ... P. > > -- > VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 > work: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon >

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Re (2): Active Oberon in Debian 12
by peter＠easthope.ca 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

From: Daniel Schmid <daniel.schmid(a)bluemail.ch> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:32:07 +0100 > Have official A2 Oberon from https://gitlab.inf.ethz.ch/felixf/oberon > installed in Debian 12 "Bookworm" (64 bit version) and it's running > stable since >0.5 yr. Good. Thanks. > Had to figure out some points where Oberon concept divers from Linux, > eg. a simple terminal user input was quiet tricky to realize in Oberon, > but now it works. In Guenter's UnixAos I've used the telnet terminal in the Oberon subsystem for years. With two screens, one is for UnixAos. Thx, ... P. -- VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 work: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope

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