October 2005 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

WMProperties.StringProperty
by Dan Parnete 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Hello, The properties could be set by FromXML method. The StringProperty could not be reseted by FormXML because it doesn't treat the empty element. I propose this correction: PROCEDURE FromXML*(xml : XML.Element); VAR en : XMLObjects.Enumerator; p : PTR; BEGIN en := xml.GetContents(); p := en.GetNext(); IF p # NIL THEN IF p IS XML.Chars THEN Set(p(XML.Chars).GetStr()) END ELSE Set(Utilities.NewString("")) END END FromXML; Thanks, Dan Parnete

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PET
by Dan Parnete 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Hello, I'm using PET not only by normal PET.Open, but even by instantiating it's objects. For this I need: PETPanel.editor and Window.currentPage: readable Window.Load: public I'll appreciate if you can help me with this facilities. Thanks, Dan Parnete

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Problems with networking WinAOS (again).
by John Drake 11 Nov '05

11 Nov '05

Ok, with a previous version of WinAOS I was having problems opening up webpages. In the latest version (2.03) that is thankfully not a problem. I can open up web pages to my heart's content. But now I have problems SERVING pages. Again the problem is different for me on my Win2K and WinXP machines. On Win2K when I go to Projects.Tool and click: Aos.Call WebHTTPServerTools.Start \r:httproot \l:httproot/WebHTTP.Log~ It kicks me ALL THE WAY OUT of Oberon. On WinXP I don't have this problem and I can actually serve (static) pages. The problem is when I try to serve dynamic pages as described in "DynamicWebPagePlugin.Text". I can start the dynamic web server plugin by clicking: Aos.Call DynamicWebpagePlugin.Install ~ no problem. But when I actually try to bring up I dxp page, once again I get kicked ALL THE WAY OUT of Oberon. In version 2.01 on Win2K I get a recursive trap whenever I try to start the webserver. In version 1.06 the webserver works fine for static and dynamic pages, but that's the version that I can't bring up external webpages on. (At least on Win2K. I seem to recall this not being a problem for WinXP.) I'm guessing that I'm the only one having these problems since no one else has mentioned this? Regards, John M. Drake __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

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Strange Oberon users ?
by easlab＠absamail.co.za 30 Oct '05

30 Oct '05

Imagine coming across a society whos members never use facilities which you find essential for life, yet who seem to cope perfectly well. Like shoes or 'artificial heat'. How do they prepare their food without 'artificial heat' ? Here's another screaming example for the need for a date-ordered directory listing: the file-backup method of 'cycling through 3 media' A,B,C, ie. the old data is just left [as a backup] when the new data is copied from B to C, seems simple and effective. With many partitions, the probability of an eventual break in the link of logical partitions becomes significant. [safety/redundancy in the links is also interesting] When uncertainty of which of 2 or 3 partitions is the oldest, even if the partition are from different MOBOs [computers] and date-stamped by different clocks, the ability to just consider the newest files [since the latest backup] would be most valuable. If a System.Directory <Partn>:*\d could be date-ordered, one could merely compare the newest files of the 2 partitions - perhaps 2 %. Doesn't any body else need such facilities, or is there a secret re. not having to cook the potatoes which I don't know about ? == Chris Glur.

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WMStandardComponents.Button
by Dan Parnete 30 Oct '05

30 Oct '05

Hello, I'm using a button in toggle mode, so it could be pressed or not. To find out the state of the button I make some tricks. The simplest way should be to have access to the "pressed" variable. Could you please put it readable? Thanks, Dan Parnete

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AW: [Oberon] AOS.EXE and USB-Stick
by hurlimann hurlimann 29 Oct '05

29 Oct '05

I will try it. Thank you very much. Bruno Hürlimann -----Original Nachricht----- From: "Stauber Sven Philipp" staubesv(a)student.ethz.ch Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:21:19 +0200 To: "ETH Oberon and related systems" oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch Subject: AW: [Oberon] AOS.EXE and USB-Stick > Hi! > > To be able to boot from a USB device, ... > - the USB drive must be partitioned (have a MBR) and contain an active > AosFS formatted partition with AOS installed on it > - your computer must support booting from USB H.D.D. > > To install Bluebottle onto the USB drive, do the same as you would > install it onto an harddisk, except: > - Use the bootfile AosUSB.Bin instead of AosIDE.Bin > - Set "BootFromUsb=1" in the config string (see Aos.Par) > > >Where I can find some information about that? > Currently, there is not much information about that. See AosSetup.Text > and BootLoader.Text (in AosSys.zip) for some related information. > > Hints: > - The USB Mass Storage driver must be loaded to access an USB drive > (call AosUsbStorage.Init) > - You can use the partition tool (Menu->Tools -> Partitions) to > partition the USB drive. If the USB drive has been recognized correctly, > you should see it listed there. > - To partition the USB drive, select it in the Partition Tool, select > the tab "Partitions" and there the Operation "WriteMBR". Uncheck > "Preserve table" and go on (this will destroy anything on that USB > drive!). After that, create a new partition of type 76 (Aos), activate > it (Partitions.Activate) and format it as "AosFS" volume. When done > this, mount the newly created volume and install Bluebottle to it the > same way as you would install it to an harddisk (except the exceptions > noted above) > > Cheers, > Sven Stauber > > ________________________________ > > Von: oberon-bounces(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch im Auftrag von hurlimann hurlimann > Gesendet: Do 27.10.2005 17:04 > An: ETH Oberon and related systems > Betreff: [Oberon] AOS.EXE and USB-Stick > > > > Hi > I have already the problem to put the AOS.ISO-File on a USB-Stick. Where > I can find some information about that? > Geetings > Bruno > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon > > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon

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Re: AW: AW: [Oberon] detecting USB storage on a Belkin F5U220
by shark＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

Sven, s> We don't have one here at ETH, ... The advantage would be the bright blue color pcb to match Bluebottle. (Friday afternoon humour) s> It should report that it has found an OHCI host controller s> (and that it failed to get the second one working). This is all the USB related information in the Kernel.Log. No mention of the second controller. AosOhci: Initialised USB Open Host Controller at base 0E4800000H, Irq: 10 AosUsb: Driver UsbHub (integrated USB hub driver) has been added. AosUsb: USB driver loaded. AosUsb: Driver UsbStorage (Usb Storage Device Driver) has been added. > Which version of Bluebottle are you using? Sorry, it is only Aos 08.06.05. I'm spending little time with Aos these days. Regards, ... Peter E. Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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Re: AW: [Oberon] detecting USB storage on a Belkin F5U220
by shark＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

j.straube> ... boils down to the question: Can Aos handle more than one OHCI controller or how does Aos access the second OHCI controller (something like USBHC1 on IRQ12). Logical observation. I can live with three ports while USB support evolves. Sven, is this Belkin F5U220 or something similar available there? If not, let me know. Thanks, Peter E. Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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Re: AW: [Oberon] detecting USB storage on a Belkin F5U220
by shark＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 27 Oct '05

27 Oct '05

Sven, The F5U220 has 4 external ports and one internal. The Kingston storage is detected on the internal port and two of the external ports. ss> It would be interesting if you > could report the port count of these two companions. The reports with the Kingston plugged in what I called port 0 follows. Info calls it port 2. Diag says DevicePresent in port 3 and mentions 13 EDs! (What is ED?) The Diag output is verbose isn't it. I can give the report with the storage in another port if it helps. ... Peter E. === Aos.Call AosUsb.Info ~ ================================================= Usb tree: UsbRootHub00 (integrated USB root hub driver) with 3 ports Device at port 2: Kingston DataTraveler II+ S/N: 5B4C1C02044E [Device: Class: 0H Subclass: 0H Protocol: 0] Address: 1 [fullSpeed] MaxPower: 100mA USB version: 2.0 Vendor: 951H Product: 1601H Bcd: 100 Configuration 0: [active]: Interface 0: [Class: 8H Subclass: 6H Protocol: 50H #Endpoints: 3] No alternate interface available. Endpoint 1: [Type: Bulk(IN) MaxPacketSize: 64 Bytes IRQinterval: 0 ms] Endpoint 2: [Type: Bulk(OUT) MaxPacketSize: 64 Bytes IRQinterval: 0 ms] Endpoint 3: [Type: Interrupt(IN) MaxPacketSize: 64 Bytes IRQinterval: 1 ms] Driver: [UsbStorage00(Usb Storage Device Driver)] === Aos.Call AosUsb.ShowDrivers ~ ================================================= Command not found === Aos.Call AosUsbOhci.Diag ~ ================================================= Diagnostics of USBHC0 (USB Open Host Controller) HcRevision: OHCI rev.: 01.00 Legacy support: No iobase E4800000H Irq: 10 Int Counter:20 HcControl: State: UsbOperational C/B-Ratio: 1: 1, Flags: [PeriodicListEnabled] [ControlListEnabled] [BulkListEnabled] HcCommandStatus: SchedulingOverrungCount: 0, Flags: Interrupts Enabled: [MasterInterrupt][WBDoneHead][Error][FmOverflow][OwnerShipChange] HcInterruptStatus: [StartOfFrame][RooHubStatusChange] Frame: Nbr: A42FH FmInterval: 11999 FSMaxPacketSize: 8000 Bits, FmiToggle: Set PeriodicStart: 3E67H PeriodicCurrentED: 0H ControlHeadED: 6B2CA0H CurrentControlED: 0H BulkHeadED: 6B2CB0H CurrentBulkED: 0H RootHub: PowerSwitching: Per port, OverCurrentProtection: Per port, PO2PG: 30 ms Port 1 status:[Powered][ConnectChange] Port 2 status:[Powered][ConnectChange] Port 3 status:[DevicePresent][Enabled][Powered] Host Controller Data Structures for USBHC0 (USB Open Host Controller): ED at address: 6B2C80H (32ms interrupt head) Adr: 0 Ep: 0 Dir: Specified in TD MaxPacketSize: 0 Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: 6B2C70H TDList: Empty ED at address: 6B2C70H (16ms interrupt head) Adr: 0 Ep: 0 Dir: Specified in TD MaxPacketSize: 0 Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: 6B2C60H TDList: Empty ED at address: 6B2C60H (8ms interrupt head) Adr: 0 Ep: 0 Dir: Specified in TD MaxPacketSize: 0 Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: 6B2C50H TDList: Empty ED at address: 6B2C50H (4ms interrupt head) Adr: 0 Ep: 0 Dir: Specified in TD MaxPacketSize: 0 Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: 6B2C40H TDList: Empty ED at address: 6B2C40H (2ms interrupt head) Adr: 0 Ep: 0 Dir: Specified in TD MaxPacketSize: 0 Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: 6B2C30H TDList: Empty ED at address: 6B2C30H (1ms interrupt head) Adr: 0 Ep: 0 Dir: Specified in TD MaxPacketSize: 0 Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: D66490H TDList: Empty ED at address: D66490H (Kingston DataTraveler II+) Adr: 1 Ep: 3 Type: Interrupt Dir: In MaxPacketSize: 64 LastStatus: Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: 6B2C90H TDList: Empty ED at address: 6B2C90H (IsochronousList Head) Adr: 0 Ep: 0 Dir: Specified in TD MaxPacketSize: 0 Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: None TDList: Empty ED at address: 6B2CB0H (BulkList Head) Adr: 0 Ep: 0 Dir: Specified in TD MaxPacketSize: 0 Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: C6C390H TDList: Empty ED at address: C6C390H (PIPE NOT FOUND!!!) Adr: 1 Ep: 2 Dir: Out MaxPacketSize: 64 Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed][Toggle] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: A75470H TDList: Empty ED at address: A75470H (Kingston DataTraveler II+) Adr: 1 Ep: 1 Type: Bulk Dir: In MaxPacketSize: 64 LastStatus: [OK] Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: None TDList: Empty ED at address: 6B2CA0H (ControlList Head) Adr: 0 Ep: 0 Dir: Specified in TD MaxPacketSize: 0 Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: B6FED0H TDList: Empty ED at address: B6FED0H (Kingston DataTraveler II+) Adr: 1 Ep: 0 Type: Control Dir: Specified in TD MaxPacketSize: 64 LastStatus: [OK] Flags: [Skip][FullSpeed] HeadP: NullTD TailP: NullTD NextED: None TDList: Empty ==================================================== Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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detecting USB storage on a Belkin F5U220
by shark＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 27 Oct '05

27 Oct '05

If a Kingston storage is plugged into sockets 0 or 2, counting from the system board edge, of a Belkin F5U220, it is detected with Partitions.Show ~. If the Kingston storage is plugged into sockets 1 or 3 it is not detected with Partitions.Show ~. The booklet with the card specifies both OHCI and EHCI compliance. No mention of two types of connector. Usb.Info in the old Usb.Tool fails. Any ideas? Would it be that sockets 1 and 3 are strictly EHCI? Is there an Aos replacement for Usb.Info? PCITools.Scan output is appended. Thanks, ... Peter E. ====================================================== [video and ethernet info. omitted] Bus 0, device 11, function 0: class/rev 0C031043, vendor/device 10330035, status/cmd 02100016 Class: Serial bus controller, Sub-class: USB Controller, ProgIntfc: OHCI Vendor: NEC Corporation, Device: USB IRQ10, INTA 4KB 32-bit memory at E4800000 - E4800FFF Bus 0, device 11, function 1: class/rev 0C031043, vendor/device 10330035, status/cmd 02100016 Class: Serial bus controller, Sub-class: USB Controller, ProgIntfc: OHCI Vendor: NEC Corporation, Device: USB IRQ12, INTB 4KB 32-bit memory at E4000000 - E4000FFF Bus 0, device 11, function 2: class/rev 0C032004, vendor/device 103300E0, status/cmd 02100016 Class: Serial bus controller, Sub-class: USB Controller, ProgIntfc: EHCI Vendor: NEC Corporation, Device: USB 2.0 IRQ9, INTC 256B 32-bit memory at E3800000 - E38000FF 8 devices found Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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