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Re: [Oberon] Oberon Day 2011 Reminder
by Fyodor Tkachov 09 Jun '11

09 Jun '11

Hello Paul, This to report that I am all set (visa, air ticket, etc.) to come to the Oberon day as scheduled. Cheers Fyodor > Oberon Day 2011 is in three weeks time! ............ Powered by the E-mail PIM - Info Select - www.miclog.com

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Re. Oberon V4
by easlab-absa 29 May '11

29 May '11

Jack Johnson wrote: > I was missing Oberon V4 so downloaded the latest Linux version and > slapped it on top of Tiny Core Linux. I noticed it's the Linz version > and it's black-on-white. Does anyone recall how to reverse the video? > Mine is: GNU/LINUX OberonTM V4.0-1.7.02 Linz RLI I've only seen one system which writes white-on-blank, and it looked spooky. But I suppose it uses less power. IIRC I patched the Source to Save in *nix format, but I didn't bother to change the [button-Label] and the log still shows: 'EditTools.StoreAscii /tmp/ObnTmp 921' The one small difference that I liked about V4 is that it auto-detects if the file to be loaded is in Obn or *nix format. So that I can use MM/MR to load all file types. > Tiny Core or Micro Core plus one of the Linux Oberon versions might > make a nice migration for someone looking to maintain the NO feel on > modern hardware with minimum bloat, especially if you just want > wireless connectivity on a netbook or something. More info at > http://www.tinycorelinux.com/ if you're interested. New stuff like wireless is mostly made in Asia, where they think in terms of 'market share', so they cater only for MicroSoft. OTOH the linux could handle all the networking and allow V4 to be the front end. I recently noticed in V4: Mailer.Mod -> PROCEDURE Send*; ... Texts.WriteString(W, S.s); Texts.WriteString(W, " mailing"); Texts.WriteLn(W); Texts.Append(Oberon.Log, W.buf); Files.Register(temp); cmdStr := "(/usr/lib/sendmail -oi -t < /tmp/Mailer.Send; rm /tmp/Mailer.Send) &"; Unix.System (SYSTEM.ADR(cmdStr), LEN(cmdStr)); (* Unix.System("/usr/lib/sendmail -oi -t < /tmp/Mailer.Send"); *) (* Files.Delete("/tmp/Mailer.Send", res) *) END END Send; So V4 writes the text to a file and calls *nix `sendmail` to handle it. Since sendmail does 'everything', it would handle eg. TxAuthorisation which Oberon lacks. OTOH sendmail is known to be a monster to setup. So now I have to save this, written in LEO, as *nix and paste it into a *nix mailer which handles the TxAuthorisation. Thanks, ==Chris Glur.

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Oberon V4
by Jack Johnson 29 May '11

29 May '11

I was missing Oberon V4 so downloaded the latest Linux version and slapped it on top of Tiny Core Linux. I noticed it's the Linz version and it's black-on-white. Does anyone recall how to reverse the video? Thanks, -Jack P.S. Tiny Core or Micro Core plus one of the Linux Oberon versions might make a nice migration for someone looking to maintain the NO feel on modern hardware with minimum bloat, especially if you just want wireless connectivity on a netbook or something. More info at http://www.tinycorelinux.com/ if you're interested.

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Oberon Day 2011 Reminder
by Paul Reed 06 May '11

06 May '11

Oberon Day 2011 is in three weeks time! http://www.oberonday2011.ethz.ch/ The schedule of talks has now been finalised, and we are preparing some additional demonstrations of Oberon-derived systems and research from Prof. Gutknecht's Native Systems Group at ETH Zurich. Oberon Day is free to attend - if you have not done so already, please register using the following link: http://www.oberonday2011.ethz.ch/registration/ Please see the website for and location and accommodation details if required, and for information about social events after the conference. We are looking forward to meeting new and old faces of the Oberon community at what promises to be an interesting, stimulating and enjoyable event. See you on Friday 27th May! [Apologies for the double-post - the last one disappeared in some email clients.]

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Re: [Oberon] FW: A2 Change-Log
by peasthope＠shaw.ca 05 May '11

05 May '11

On Thu, 5 May 2011, Treutwein Bernhard wrote: > oh yeah, see: http://www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/wiki/Development/Builds > especially Section 3 The wording in section 9 needs improvement. Is this sensible? 9. Start WinAOS. The names of the executable and the object file folder are only significant for compatibility with names of the object files. Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ .

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Re: [Oberon] FW: A2 Change-Log
by peasthope＠shaw.ca 05 May '11

05 May '11

On Thu, 5 May 2011, Treutwein Bernhard wrote: > oh yeah, see: http://www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/wiki/Development/Builds > especially Section 3 The wording in section 9 needs improvement. Is this sensible? 9. Start WinAOS. The names of the executable and the object file folder are only significant for compatibility with names of the object files. Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ .

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Re: [Oberon] FW: A2 Change-Log
by Treutwein Bernhard 05 May '11

05 May '11

> > Sure, I have to use Windows for creating the ISO, but an orphaned PIII 933 is more than enough to compile, link and build the A2 image in about 20 minutes ... > > ReallY? You are joking! :) oh yeah, see: http://www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/wiki/Development/Builds especially Section 3 To my knowledge the A2 Subversion client is not yet functional enough to update an A2 installation ... I even suspect that the non-existence of directories in AosFS would make it very difficult to create a new Release in Native A2 ... regards Bernhard

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FW: FW: A2 Change-Log
by Treutwein Bernhard 05 May '11

05 May '11

> > That URL above is for building WinAos > not only, Section 3 is "Build A2 within WinAOS" I also needed several attempts to find that out. It is for building a new A2.iso within WinAOS and it needs not too much, but currently it doesn't complete very smoothly, see http://www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/forum/index.php/topic,583.0.html regards Bernhard

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FW: A2 Change-Log
by Treutwein Bernhard 05 May '11

05 May '11

> > I think that you prefer A2 on Windows, correct? not at all ... > I won't go near Windows - sorry! > the ISO image is the one which boots naked PC hardware (see the Hardware Compatibility page on the community platform http://www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/wiki/Documentation/HardwareCompatibility. Sure, I have to use Windows for creating the ISO, but ... regards Bernhard

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USB in ETHNO; was Re (n): ETHO to *nix MTA interface?
by peasthope＠shaw.ca 04 May '11

04 May '11

From: Duke Normandin <dukeofperl(a)ml1.net> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:16:09 -0600 > What the heck is OHCI and EHCI? "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_controller_interface" ... P. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ .

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