September 2023 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

Re: [Oberon] Export of Oberon Mail.SendCmd().
by Joerg 30 Oct '26

30 Oct '26

Generally, re-using code instead of copying is a good approach. If you do so, then the whole code of Mail is imported in News. Possible but perhaps there is even a better approach to re-use code. What about this: try to separate all common code in an own module (e.g call it Communication.Mod or MsgBase.Mod or Utilities.Mod or so) and import this new module in Mail and in News. br Jörg > Am 14.06.2023 um 19:53 schrieb peter(a)easthope.ca: > > Hello again, > > Several procedures in Mail are used in Oberon News. Rg.: > Mail.ParseContent(), Mail.DecodeMessage() & Mail.GetSetting(). > > Is export of SendCmd() and use in News objectionable? > Ie. in Mail, change PROCEDURE SendCmd(...) to PROCEDURE SendCmd*(...). > > Thanks, ... P. > > - > mobile: +1 778 951 5147 > VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon

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Good News on Ceres-3 recreated on FPGA
by Pablo Cayuela 21 Oct '23

21 Oct '23

This project of Ceres on FPGA by Udo Möller was mentioned many times on the list. There is some good news on it. http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/News.html The Ceres-3 is finally working on an FPGA board featuring a Verilog version of the NS32k CPU used in the original hardware: http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/TRIPUTER.html#Ceres Ceres-3 in Action, Fig. 10 of http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Ceres.html http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/images/Ceres-3-5.jpg At "The Web Site to Remember National Semiconductor's Series 32000 Family" http://www.cpu-ns32k.net you can find many retrocomputing projects that Udo Möller has built along the years, http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/TITAN6.html http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/TRIPUTER.html featuring his own reconstruction of the NS32k family of CPUs functionality in Verilog based only on the documentation manuals of the chips. His design is called the M32632, http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Overview.html http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Architecture.html and it is working on a series of Altera FPGA boards, http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Devhard.html that anyone could use: http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Getting.html I even port one of his initial versions of the M32632 to a Xilinx FPGA (Digilent Nexys4 board) but not the complete Ceres-3 project. I hope you find this news interesting. Best regards, Prof Pablo Cayuela Argentina

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A2 multi-desktop switching vs. Oberon subsystem.
by peter＠easthope.ca 23 Sep '23

23 Sep '23

>From schierlm at gmx.de Mon Jul 31 22:19:02 2023 > In latest gitlab version, you can either disable global hotkeys > completely by pressing the F12 key, or you can edit Hotkeys.xml ... Guenter Feldmann's LinuxA2 Gen. 64-bit, rev.9799 here. Files > Files > searcher reports no Hotkeys.XML file. After shifting over to the git archive based system, I'll have another look at Hotkeys. No specific plan for that. Until shifted I'm satisfied to disable hotkeys in Configuration.XML. Thanks for explaining, ... P.L. - mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140

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Re (2): Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by peter＠easthope.ca 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

From: Pablo Cayuela <pablo.cayuela(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 14:44:31 -0300 > Restored links to Native Standtalone, Native Dummies, Sparc Solaris Oberon, > Darwin51, Windows 95 NT etc, all to my github. > https://github.com/pcayuela/oldftpETHZOberon Wonderful. Thanks. Good to see the participation. ... P.L. - mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140

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Re (2): Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by peter＠easthope.ca 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

From: Pablo Cayuela <pablo.cayuela(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 13:25:59 -0300 > I've already found links to SharkOberon and MacOberon at the old copy of > the ETHZ FTP site in my github. > I've updated the wiki page: > https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/ETH_Oberon/download There are many links with potential for error. Help with maintenance certainly is appreciated. =8~) Thx, ... P.L. - mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140

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Re: [Oberon] Re (2): Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by Pablo Cayuela 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

No objection! Yes, the first one is for Win 95, NT, etc. The other is only for Win 3.1. On Fri, 22 Sept 2023 at 16:43, <peter(a)easthope.ca> wrote: > From: Pablo Cayuela <pablo.cayuela(a)gmail.com> > Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 12:56:30 -0300 > > I've already updated links pointing to my github that has and old copy of > > ETHZ when it was working. > > The versions referred to are: Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for HP-UX, ... > > Thanks. > > > ... and Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for Windows 3.1. > > Thanks for that also. > > The 2nd table in > https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/ETH_Oberon/download > has lines for Windows and for Windows 3.x. Would the first be > better identified as "Windows NT and Windows 95" rather than > only "Windows"? > > Windows 3.x existed before the other two. My inclination is to > put them in chronological order. Ie. Windows 3.x before Windows NT. > Any objection? > > Thx, ... P.L. > > - > mobile: +1 778 951 5147 > VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon >

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Re (2): Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by peter＠easthope.ca 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

From: Pablo Cayuela <pablo.cayuela(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 12:56:30 -0300 > I've already updated links pointing to my github that has and old copy of > ETHZ when it was working. > The versions referred to are: Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for HP-UX, ... Thanks. > ... and Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for Windows 3.1. Thanks for that also. The 2nd table in https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/ETH_Oberon/download has lines for Windows and for Windows 3.x. Would the first be better identified as "Windows NT and Windows 95" rather than only "Windows"? Windows 3.x existed before the other two. My inclination is to put them in chronological order. Ie. Windows 3.x before Windows NT. Any objection? Thx, ... P.L. - mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140

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Re (2): Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by peter＠easthope.ca 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

From: Chris Burrows <cfbsoftware(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 11:15:46 +1000 > "The PowerMacintosh version, the Linux version, and a somewhat improved > version for Windows and Macintosh are on the Linz server." > > > https://ssw.jku.at/Research/Projects/Oberon.html > ... Thanks Chris. The lines for Linux and for Windows in the table are now consolidated into one. Links updated, including those in the footnote. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/System_Variants#cite_note-Linz-9 In Sourceforge, I didn't notice installation instructions or a README file. Might be inside Oberon.zip. Haven't checked that yet. Thx, ... P.L. - mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140

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Re: [Oberon] Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by Pablo Cayuela 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

I've already updated links pointing to my github that has and old copy of ETHZ when it was working. The versions referred to are: Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for HP-UX, and Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for Windows 3.1. Thank you Peter for your continuous work. Prof. Pablo Cayuela Argentina On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 12:31, <peter(a)easthope.ca> wrote: > Hi, > > In https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/ETH_Oberon/download > many of the links were dead. > > Under heading "Oberon ports no longer updated" Native now refers to > Sourceforge and Github. > > Windows [95NT] now refers to Github. > > What about the other ports? The thesis of Bernard Egger is at > > https://csap.snu.ac.kr/sites/default/files/papers/2001.Egger.Development%20… > Is an installation archive available? > > Windows 3.x? > > MacOS? > > HP-UX? > > Thanks, ... P.L. > > - > mobile: +1 778 951 5147 > VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon >

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Re: [Oberon] Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by Stuff Received 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

On 2023-09-21 11:31, peter(a)easthope.ca wrote: > Hi, > > In https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/ETH_Oberon/download > many of the links were dead. > > Under heading "Oberon ports no longer updated" Native now refers to Sourceforge and Github. > > Windows [95NT] now refers to Github. > > What about the other ports? The thesis of Bernard Egger is at > https://csap.snu.ac.kr/sites/default/files/papers/2001.Egger.Development%20… > Is an installation archive available? > > Windows 3.x? > > MacOS? > > HP-UX? The Solaris/Sparc port runs on Solaris 11.3/Sparc after recompiling the loader code (with archive at https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/oberon/ftp.inf.ethz.ch/ETHOberon/Unix/spa…) Sincerely, S. > > Thanks, ... P.L. > > - > mobile: +1 778 951 5147 > VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon

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