February 2006 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

http://webdav.ethz.ch/davzip/WebDAV.1.4.2.Zip
by edgar＠edgarschwarz.de 22 Mar '06

22 Mar '06

Hi all, finally the WebDAV server at ETH Zuerich (Thanks) is up again. You can get the release using your normal browser. More info and a chance for feedback at my new Wiki http://vs2066162.netfabrik.de/mm/ObeDav (Domain www.edgar-schwarz.de will move there sometime) Cheers, Edgar

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Optical mouse for N-O ?
by easlab＠absamail.co.za 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Here it's impossible to find out the specs or capability of computer products, except that they 'are for this weeks flavour of WINxyz'. It must be nice to have the smooth, reliable cursor movement of an optical mouse for N-O; provided the rest still works as previously. Do any N-O users drive a [3 button] optical mouse successfully ? == Chris Glur.

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Re: [Oberon] Re: Optical mouse for N-O ?
by Douglas G. Danforth 27 Feb '06

27 Feb '06

Chris, How about trying eBay and having a mouse shipped to you? -Doug Danforth easlab(a)absamail.co.za wrote: > cg> Do any N-O users drive a [3 button] optical mouse successfully ? > > Peter E. wrote: > >> Yes. >> >> Mouse Systems Corp. >> MSC 403272-001 >> S/N MSC DZ 035516 >> FCC ID: CWE402462 >> >> It is serial and works on a grid marked aluminum panel. >> >> Works with the first Mouse Systems driver tested >> in the N-O installation. I expect that any >> mouse made by this company will work for N-O. >> >> As I am aware, the company closed years ago. >> With luck you will find a used one. >> > > Lucky for you ! > I've got more chance of falling pregnant. > > I have to accept what's thrown on the market; > ie. this week's flavour of WINxyz stuff. > > Thanks, > > == Chris Glur. > > > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon > > >

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Re: Optical mouse for N-O ?
by easlab＠absamail.co.za 26 Feb '06

26 Feb '06

cg> Do any N-O users drive a [3 button] optical mouse successfully ? Peter E. wrote: > Yes. > > Mouse Systems Corp. > MSC 403272-001 > S/N MSC DZ 035516 > FCC ID: CWE402462 > > It is serial and works on a grid marked aluminum panel. > > Works with the first Mouse Systems driver tested > in the N-O installation. I expect that any > mouse made by this company will work for N-O. > > As I am aware, the company closed years ago. > With luck you will find a used one. Lucky for you ! I've got more chance of falling pregnant. I have to accept what's thrown on the market; ie. this week's flavour of WINxyz stuff. Thanks, == Chris Glur.

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Re: [Oberon] Optical mouse for N-O ?
by shark 25 Feb '06

25 Feb '06

Chris, cg> Do any N-O users drive a [3 button] optical mouse successfully ? Yes. Mouse Systems Corp. MSC 403272-001 S/N MSC DZ 035516 FCC ID: CWE402462 It is serial and works on a grid marked aluminum panel. Works with the first Mouse Systems driver tested in the N-O installation. I expect that any mouse made by this company will work for N-O. As I am aware, the company closed years ago. With luck you will find a used one. Regards, ... Peter E.

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Re (2): [Oberon] packaging a document
by shark＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 24 Feb '06

24 Feb '06

Doug, d> http://unipage.org/ Thanks. Most .org sites are not commercial but this one has a commercial appearance. I wonder who is behind it. d> ... it seems to work only on a page by page basis ... Also it appears to be a replacement for PDF ... which defeats the browser responsibility for formatting & presentation. I do not want to change the interpretation of the html or XML; just want a document in one file. The zip file might work in Aos; Don't know what another system would make of it after unzipping. Regards, ... Peter Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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Re: [Oberon] Booting Bluebottle from USB
by Aubrey McIntosh 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

I have placed Bluebottle onto an RCA-Thompson RD1072A Lyra music player, and used it to boot a computer over USB. I formatted the internal flash to have two partitions, a 128 Mb partition 1 that Windows and the Lyra see, and a 128 Mb second partition that Bluebottle sees. I used the multiboot MBR mentioned at the end of AosInst.Tool. Before I formatted the internal flash, the removable SD card would not attempt to boot. However, after I set up Bluebottle on both the removable and the internal flash, the removable flash is the preferred boot device. The Lyra still stores and plays files delivered from Windows. -- Aubrey McIntosh, Ph.D. >>> staubesv(a)student.ethz.ch 2/21/2006 10:04 AM >>> Dear All, The USB software contained in the today's release is smaller in size, so it's possible to create boot files that don't exceed the x86 real mode memory constraints and can be used to boot from USB drives (Tested).

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packaging a document
by shark＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

Hello everyone, In other systems I would put a document in a single tex or pdf file. The best way to represent a document in Oberon or Aos is html or xml. As I know these formats, they involve multiple files. For example, one html file and a jpg for each illustration. I am interested to know the best way to package a document into a single file. One approach might be to zip the contents together and mount by ZipFS (in Aos; not in Oberon). XML might have its own packaging method which I am not aware of. So what is best in Oberon and in Aos? Thanks, ... Peter E. Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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Re: [Oberon] Booting Bluebottle from USB
by Aubrey McIntosh 21 Feb '06

21 Feb '06

I built the AosUsb.Bin file according to these instructions and successfully booted to the Bluebottle screen, and started the Oberon application. For some reason, the CD image did not successfully boot on my machine. I booted from the Jan 24 CD, mounted today's release, and built AosUsb.Bin and installed files from that environment. -- Aubrey McIntosh, Ph.D. >>> staubesv(a)student.ethz.ch 2/21/2006 10:04 AM >>> Dear All, The USB software contained in the today's release is smaller in size, so it's possible to create boot files that don't exceed the x86 real mode memory constraints and can be used to boot from USB drives (Tested).

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Booting Bluebottle from USB
by Stauber Sven Philipp 21 Feb '06

21 Feb '06

Dear All, The USB software contained in the today's release is smaller in size, so it's possible to create boot files that don't exceed the x86 real mode memory constraints and can be used to boot from USB drives (Tested). The two major changes which made it smaller are: - Conditionally compile debug/trace code (see constants in AosUsbDebug.Mod) - Refactoring of Mass Storage Driver (uses Bulk-only transport driver for booting; AosUsbStorageBoot.Mod) To boot from USB: 1. Link a boot file (currently not provided, AosUSB.Bin contained in the release does not work!) Open the file Aos.Tool under Oberon. Go to the section "Link boot file". There are two different versions of USB boot files: AosUSB.Bin & AosUSB2.Bin. If your computer is able to boot from USB high-speed devices ("USB2.0"), I highly recommend using AosUSB2.Bin boot file. Press the BbLinker.Link command of your choice and be sure that the size of the resulting boot file does not exceed 640KByte. Notes: - AosUSB2.Bin can just be linked. It's small enough even with debug/trace code enabled. - AosUSB.Bin: The trace/debug code is per default enabled. You will have to set the constants AosUsbDebug.Trace & AosUsbDebug.Debug to FALSE and then re-compile the USB software (use the compile command in AosUsb.Text) to get a small enough boot file. This means, of course, that you won't see any trace/debug messages if something fails, but it makes the code smaller in size. 2. Prepare your USB drive (see AosUsb.Text for more details) - Create a partition of type 76 (AosFS) - Activate partition - Format partition, update boot file (AosUSB.Bin or AosUSB2.Bin) - Install Bluebottle the same way you would install it onto a H.D.D. 2.5 Config strings Basically, you can use the same config strings as if Bluebottle was installed onto a H.D.D., except: You have to boot from a partition of the device USB0, e.g. "BootVol1=AOS AosFS USB0#1" If booting using AosUSB2.Bin: Boot1=AosKeyboard;AosMousePS2;AosUsbMouse;AosUsbKeyboard;AosUsbStorage;AosUsbUhci;AosUsbOhci If booting using AosUSB.Bin: Boot1=AosKeyboard;AosMousePS2;AosUsbMouse;AosUsbKeyboard;AosUsbStorage Notes: - The USB boot files don't contain the ATA disk driver. If you want to access ATA/ATAPI drives, add the config string "AosATADisks.Install" somewhere. - You don't have to set the config string "BootFromUsb=1" anymore - You MUST NOT load the EHCI host controller driver (AosUsbEhci.Mod) when booting from AosUSB.Bin. You also MUST NOT call AosPCITools.DetectHardware (would install EHCI driver if H/W is present). Doing so would cause the USB drive you're booting from to be disconnected from its host controller and re-connected to the EHCI controller. 3. Try to boot If you're hanging when the message "Oberon loading..." is displayed, then - check whether you did set the config strings - if you did, add the config strings "TraceMode=4" and "Init=" (delete the Init config string) to enable tracing, and then try to boot again - if you don't see any trace messages and still hang at "Oberon loading...", the boot file is too large Regards, Sven Stauber

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