November 2017 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

FPGA - Screen.Mod
by Tomas Kral 26 Oct '18

26 Oct '18

Hi, EDIT (1) I am looking for `Screen.Mod' module (mainly its `Screen.Grub' command) hinted in PO2013 pictures. I have completed early version of `Bitmaps.Mod' supporting basic set of raster operations. I wish to share pictures and code. As we may not post attachments to the forum, I could expose to GitHub, there is also `WikiBook' run by Lyall E. Please advise. Many thanks. -- Tomas Kral <thomas.kral(a)email.cz>

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FPGA Oberon - Definition Module Tool
by thomas.kral＠email.cz 08 Oct '18

08 Oct '18

Hi, I am thinking of a simple tool that could extract definition info from *.Mod and produce respective *.Def file. Definition files can be quickly looked at, to remind a programmer of the interface *.Mod modules export. While on Linux one could use grep $ grep PROCEDURE\ * *.Mod.txt to obtain info at least about procedures, but how about exported types and variables? I am looking for a recommended way how to simply code such a tool, is it a good idea to use `ORP' parser somehow for the task? I prefer to code it simple, does not have to be perfect, but should carry the idea. Tomas

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WIP: Project Oberon / ARM Linux
by Peter Matthias 23 Mar '18

23 Mar '18

Hi all, an untested public version of PO/L is available at http://oberon.wikidot.com Regards, Peter

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Project Oberon inner core and disk image creation
by Andreas Pirklbauer 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

> On Thu Oct 12 19:09:15 CEST 2017 Peter Matthias wrote: > > Hello, > are static linker and tools to create the disk image > available for Project Oberon? > > Peter > A minimal version of the system "building tools" for Oberon 2013 is at: github.com/andreaspirklbauer/Oberon-building-tools It allows one to create a new inner core and load the generated image onto the boot area of the local disk.

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Oberon system building tools (including Oberon0.Mod)
by Andreas Pirklbauer 14 Dec '17

14 Dec '17

> Would you mind providing a disk image usable with oberon-risc-emu? A disk image that works with the Oberon emulator has been uploaded to: https://github.com/andreaspirklbauer/Oberon-experimental/tree/master/Docume… To use it, download this file to your emulator directory and run: tar xvf S3RISCinstall.tar.gz Then just start the Oberon emulator. EO should come up in a blitz. —————————— PS: I have not yet uploaded an Oberon disk image where the *entire* Oberon system (i.e. module System and all its imports) is contained as a *single* boot file in the *boot area* of the local disk (area starting at block #2 on disk) - mainly because one would first need to increase the size of the boot area itself to make room for the enlarged boot file. It’s not difficult, just a little tricky. If you want an image for THAT, it can be provided in the repository. Alternatively, you can just follow the instructions provided at https://github.com/andreaspirklbauer/Oberon-building-tools. Takes only a few seconds, but requires a few additional source files. It’s fun little exercise of what one can already do with the (still) rather rudimentary Oberon system building tools. This must be the absolutely fastest possible way to boot the Oberon system if it is stored as a single binary file on disk - it really is absolutely instantaneous (it better be, as the *entire* OS is transferred "en bloc" from disk directly to main memory, without even invoking the module loader; in fact, it doesn’t even require a working file system; not even the directory root block (block #1 on disk) must be initialized - nothing; just a single boot file, that’s it). PS2: The next version of the building tools will include the ability to create “partitions”. Surprisingly the whole thing can be implemented with only a few lines of code - far cry from other implementations that offer partition management.

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Experimental Oberon
by Andreas Pirklbauer 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

> > Some people still think 3-button mice are best. > I do. As I said: "That may be true for professional users…” But the average grandma would lost with a three-button mouse ;-)

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Experimental Oberon
by Andreas Pirklbauer 03 Dec '17

03 Dec '17

> However, why is text scrolling implemente with left mouse button? > I would expect to use middle button as in the original system. Because most “real” systems don’t have a middle button.

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ETH Oberon Projects and Applications available
by Chris Burrows 02 Dec '17

02 Dec '17

> -----Original Message----- > From: Skulski, Wojciech [mailto:skulski@pas.rochester.edu] > Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017 10:11 AM > To: ETH Oberon and related systems > Subject: RE: [Oberon] V4 versus S3 survey > > > Looking at the module registry I can see lots of names and possibly > interesting projects. If some portion of these projects were > available on the web, then System 3 would get quite a boost in terms > of available software. > > http://www.ethoberon.ethz.ch/native/Registry.html > Many *are* available on the web: http://www.ethoberon.ethz.ch/software/ which also leads to: ftp://ftp.ethoberon.ethz.ch/ETHOberon/Contrib/ Before you do that however, you may already have some of these projects on your computer. Look in the ETHOberon\Apps folder that was created when you unzipped the WinOberon.zip file. You will find ~70 application 'packages' there each with the file extension '.oaf'. You can install any of these packages using the ETH Oberon tool 'Applications.Tool', Regards, Chris Burrows CFB Software http://www.astrobe.com

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Context identifiers; was "Oberon system building tools (including Oberon0.Mod)"
by peter＠easthope.ca 30 Nov '17

30 Nov '17

From: Andreas Pirklbauer <andreas_pirklbauer(a)yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:14:09 +0100 > 2. Experimental Oberon (EO): In the wikibook, the identifier for ETH Oberon, System 3, is now S3. That allows EO for Experimental Oberon. (Not a trivial change. Several text edits and several pages to rename.) Please mention any further concerns here or in a "Talk" page. Or edit the book. (Yes, it's a wiki.) For interest, "Page information" for the title page shows over 700 "views" for November 1-30. Regards, ... Lyall E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 Tel: +1 360 639 0202 Pender Is.: +1 250 629 3757 http://easthope.ca/Peter.html Bcc: peter at easthope. ca

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Installing from ISO
by Liam Proven 29 Nov '17

29 Nov '17

I thought I posted a question about this a week ago, although I can't see it on the list. I thought I would share the workaround that I came up with. I created a VirtualBox VM for A2 on the target machine, and gave that VM direct access to the target disk partition by creating a VMDK for the partition: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk I booted the ISO file from Sourceforge in the VM, and installed to the partition _in the VM_. This worked fine. The drawback with this approach is that it does not write a bootloader to the MBR, but I am using a 3rd party boot loader, PowerQuest BootMagic, in a bootable DOS partition. After the "quickinstall" completed, I closed the VM, rebooted the PC into DOS, added A2 to my boot menu, rebooted again and the new OS booted perfectly first time. -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven(a)cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lproven(a)gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 • ČR/WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal: +420 702 829 053

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