December 2025 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

Re: [Oberon] Export of Oberon Mail.SendCmd().
by Joerg 30 Oct '26

30 Oct '26

Generally, re-using code instead of copying is a good approach. If you do so, then the whole code of Mail is imported in News. Possible but perhaps there is even a better approach to re-use code. What about this: try to separate all common code in an own module (e.g call it Communication.Mod or MsgBase.Mod or Utilities.Mod or so) and import this new module in Mail and in News. br Jörg > Am 14.06.2023 um 19:53 schrieb peter(a)easthope.ca: > > Hello again, > > Several procedures in Mail are used in Oberon News. Rg.: > Mail.ParseContent(), Mail.DecodeMessage() & Mail.GetSetting(). > > Is export of SendCmd() and use in News objectionable? > Ie. in Mail, change PROCEDURE SendCmd(...) to PROCEDURE SendCmd*(...). > > Thanks, ... P. > > - > mobile: +1 778 951 5147 > VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon

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Re(2): Compilation of A2.
by peter＠easthope.ca 29 Dec '25

29 Dec '25

Michael & all, From: Michael Schierl <schierlm(a)gmx.de> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2025 19:25:01 +0100 > On normal Linux (Debian), ... Here Devuan daedalus based upon Debian 12.11. > cloned latest revision as of writing > (ec4ce23120a0e392b1d3be17ef77d23bafae435c) from > https://gitlab.inf.ethz.ch/felixf/oberon.git # git show | head -n 1 commit ec4ce23120a0e392b1d3be17ef77d23bafae435c Same as you have. Incidentally, I haven't seen a name for the number. Commit number? > unzipped Linux64.zip and followed the steps in Builds.Tool to rebuild > all modules (Note that you need the Linker command that includes > "System StdIOShell Shell" Oops. Haven't compiled. Still have the excutables from 2023. =8~/ > - Installed easy-6.6.10-amd64.img into a new VirtualBox VM (by > converting RAW->VDI and then enlarging the VDI to 2GB, and booting > from it) I run Easy 7.0.34 directly from a SD card in a USB adapter. Plug it to a USBsocket and power up. > - Tarred up the A2 tree and moved the tar file via SSH/SFTP to the new > EasyOS VM. Here A2 is in a directory on the machine where Devuan boots from HDD and Easy boots from USB. > The executables in A2 git were last rebuilt Wed Apr 19 07:29:47 2023. Thanks. I should have looked. Eg. # ls -ld Linux64/bin/Q* -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 8954 Apr 18 2023 Linux64/bin/QuoteServer.GofUu -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1043 Apr 18 2023 Linux64/bin/QuoteServer.SymUu > As I understand it, they get rebuilt before they would be unable to > recompile the latest source, so that you only need one recompile step > after initial checkout to have the latest version running. Thanks. In the coming weekend I'll try compiling. > Something is different not in EasyOS but in your install. Devuan and Easy both use the same A2 in a directory. Only one A2. > I assume you already checked permissions of the location you want to write to, and > also that you have enough disk space and enough free inodes available > (df -h, df -i commands). Thanks. Will review. My tests are small. My sketchy thinking: Oberon.Files.Write puts one character at a time into a buffer in memory. After Base64 decoding is complete, Files.Register copies the buffer to persistent storage. (What if the Linux code invoked by Files.Write differs between Devuan and Easy?) Will try again after compiling. Thanks! ... P.L. -- mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 778 508 0020 projects: en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope

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Compilation of A2.
by peter＠easthope.ca 28 Dec '25

28 Dec '25

Hi, greetings for the pending New Year. I'm trying A2 on EasyOS. https://easyos.org/ Where most Linuxes use the commands in util-linux, EasyOS uses the similar commands in BusyBox. To make one start script work in EasyOS and in other Linuxes, UUID is referenced without /dev/disk and other complications. Simplification! =8~) Thus far, the only serious snag on EasyOS is Base64.Decode always trapping. Narrowed to a failure of Files.Write at the first output character. Recompiled Oberon.Files.Mod and saw the new base types noted. With the new types introduced years ago; I wonder why compilation catches the changes only now. Executables don't keep up with sources? Recompilation of Oberon.Files.Mod doesn't solve the Base64.Decode trap. * When does a complete recompilation of the A2 system happen? * Ideas about the trap at Files.Write()? * With A2 on Debian and on Devuan, Base64.Decode works flawlessly. Ideas about the trap on EasyOS. Thanks! ... P. -- mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 778 508 0020 projects: en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope

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Re: [Oberon] Oberon for MacBook?
by Arthur Yefimov 24 Dec '25

24 Dec '25

I run a project to create a native Oberon compiler for Mac (ARM64, Apple Silicon): http://github.com/kekcleader/moc You could support or maybe just with ideas/comments etc.

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Re (2): Oberon for MacBook?
by peter＠easthope.ca 24 Dec '25

24 Dec '25

Edgar & all, From: Edgar Schwarz <edgar(a)edgarschwarz.de> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2025 23:59:26 +0100 > after a long time I would like to see what's going on with Oberon again. Something here may be pertinent. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/System_Variants Months ago, there was a suggestion to make the page more legible on a small device. Lines replacing rows of a table. Haven't done it yet. Another tip to correct an error or improve content is always welcome. Thx, ... P. -- mobile: +1 778 951 5147 <= still working VoIP: +1 778 508 0020 <= new & working projects: en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope

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Re: [Oberon] Oberon for MacBook?
by Fidel H Viegas 24 Dec '25

24 Dec '25

> > Hi, > > after a long time I would like to see what's going on with Oberon again. > Some years ago I switched from Windoof to a MacBook Air with an M1. > Any Oberon system out there for this machine? > > Hi, there! You can try a java based implementation of Oberon 07, known as OberonC ( https://github.com/lboasso/oberonc) It is a little crippled when compared to the original Oberon, but you can still play with it and get a little taste of Oberon. Another implementation I use is Vishap Oberon ( https://github.com/vishapoberon/compiler) Maybe you can build it from source. This is an Oberon 2 compiler. I hope this helps. Merry Christmas to everyone! Fidel H Viegas

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Re: [Oberon] Does anyone have the missing source files of OberonSystem 3 v2.3.6 - cancelled
by peter＠easthope.ca 23 Dec '25

23 Dec '25

Rochus & all, From: Rochus Keller <me(a)rochus-keller.ch> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2025 13:29:50 +0100 > While doing research I found this copy, apparently representing the last > Oberon FTP state, and still accessible by FTP: > ftp2.de.freebsd.org/pub/languages/oberon/ftp.inf.ethz.ch/ Thanks. The bibliography as it was at ETHZ is here. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/Bibliography ETH format is duplicated fairly closely. Content is duplicated except for adding a few citations. In the section headed Web Sites, the last three. Legally, citations can be added to the bibliography. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/Licenses Does anyone object to adding a citation as Rochus gave? Does anyone believe the bibliography should be frozen exactly as it was at ETHZ? Thanks, ... P.L. -- mobile: +1 778 951 5147 <= still working VoIP: +1 778 508 0020 <= new & working projects: en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope

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