June 2004 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

Oberon Database
by Dan Parnete 19 Sep '05

19 Sep '05

Hello, I have read this list archives, the documentation inside the distributions, some extra found on the web and I understood. Database is a Tabu word in this community, and is better to not talk about. There is no trace in any distribution (excluding the commercial BlackBox) and the new Bluebottle project doesn't intend to implement one. Ok. It's a choice of live. But don't tell me none of you never needed to put some data altogether. I can't believe nobody extended at list the Library code to more flexible collections management. I saw some database projects started long time ago. Where are this implementations? In other words: if I need a database, have I write it myself? Dan

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Re: [Oberon] Support for Realtek RTL-8139 with Native Oberon
by frey＠inf.ethz.ch 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

> I'm running Native Oberon on a Pentium-II class machine. > How can a network card such as, Realtek RTL-8139 be > configured in Native Oberon ? PCITools.Scan was able to > detect this card as a PCI device. The driver is currently only available for the new Bluebottle OS. http://bluebottle.ethz.ch It should not be too difficult to make a Native Oberon driver out of the Bluebottle OS driver. But... I have no time to do this myself. --Thomas Frey

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Moin and Oberon browsers
by edgar＠edgarschwarz.de 22 Jul '04

22 Jul '04

Hi, after making PNPImages for Aos Oberon I finally installed WebNavigator. I says it understands CSS, which is used for moin. OTOH I don't see the PNG images which I see with the standard Oberon browser. The standard browser doesn't understand <div> so the layout is bad. And John Drake mentioned that it's better with forms. So it seems that there should be a merge. My question now is which browser is ETH using ? Mozilla, IE ? And which of the existing Oberon browsers would be the better foundation to add missing features ? Cheers, Edgar -- edgar(a)edgarschwarz.de, Running Bluebottle www.edgarschwarz.de Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler ! Albert Einstein www.edgar-schwarz.de/cgi-bin/moin/ www.edgar-schwarz.de/cgi-bin/moin/SwOberon

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Aos Oberon and PNG
by edgar＠edgarschwarz.de 01 Jul '04

01 Jul '04

Hi all, I modified AosPNGImages.Mod for Oberon and made a es.PNGImages.Mod. So if you download "http://webdav.ethz.ch/no/es.PNGImages.Mod" and add some entries to Oberon.Text (Have a look at the beginning of the file) you will be able to open PNG in Aos Oberon and "http://www.edgar-schwarz.de/cgi-bin/moin/SwOberon" But be aware that they are upside down. Interesting feature :-) Shouldn't be hard to fix but not so important for this evening. Cheers, Edgar

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Debian and LNO
by edgar＠edgarschwarz.de 28 Jun '04

28 Jun '04

Hi, I got the current LNO (Linux Native Oberon) and tried to install it in a disk file on my Debian. No success already with "oberon -c install". Any experiences ? Cheers, Edgar -- edgar(a)edgarschwarz.de, Running Bluebottle www.edgarschwarz.de Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler ! Albert Einstein www.edgar-schwarz.de/cgi-bin/moin/ www.edgar-schwarz.de/cgi-bin/moin/SwOberon

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IOM04
by Christian Jansen 28 Jun '04

28 Jun '04

Dear Oberon User, Recent updates of the Oberon Meeting 04 in Basel will be posted at http://www.bluebottle.ethz.ch/IOM04/ Regards Christian Jansen

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BlueBottle Websever and loopback questions
by John Drake 25 Jun '04

25 Jun '04

Hello all, I noticed that the latest release of BlueBottle has a newer dynamic web page server. (I know the website is run off of *.ssmp pages, but this one uses *.dxp pages). I'd love to play with it (or the *.ssmp version) but I have a couple of problems. 1) I never can get standalone BlueBottle to do networking. (I think I could if I knew how to boot off a floppy instead of a CD). 2) When I used WinAos I can get it to serve "basic" webpages, but not the dynamic content in the *.ssmp or *.dxp pages. (Actually the *.dxp pages aren't even in the WinAos distribution, but the modules needed to serve them appear to be.) So I was wondering, does BlueBottle have a "loopback" mode? At this point I'd be happy to test this stuff "standalone" even. What steps do you need to take to boot from floppy? (That way I could save the network configurations). And how do you get WinAos to serve dyamic content? Regards, John M. Drake __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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WebDAV upload bug found, OberonAosLinux
by edgar＠edgarschwarz.de 23 Jun '04

23 Jun '04

Hi, John Drake <jmdrake_98(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I wrote: > > OTOH after months of being occupied with other more > > pressing matters > > I started my WebDAV server on webdav.ethz.ch again. > > And I will have look into the problems there are. > > The difficult part is that I fear that these are not > > WebDAV but TCP/IP/HTTP > > problems. > Good! Glad to see progress on this again. ... > I had forgotten about that! Well I tried to upload > again today. (Using MS Explorer "web folders" this > time). I got to 1.2K! (The file is actually 5K). > Still that's progress. ;) Then I went back to > Win Aos. It took 3 attempts, but I got > it up! > Attempt 1: 512 bytes > Attempt 2: 4K then garbage > Attempt 3: 5K and fine! I just found a bug in the WebDAV server which would cause problems with uploading. So if you perhaps delete the file it took you 3 tries to upload and try it again ? BTW, what do you think about having an Aos bootable from Linux ? There was LNO, Native for Linuxes and even an Aos for Windows. So it should be possible. It could give an easy way to jump between Linux (For browsing and reading PDF and .doc) and Bluebottle. I started a page at "http://www.edgar-schwarz.de/cgi-bin/moin/OberonAosLinux". BTW, Moin uses image/png which seems not to be supported yet by Oberon/Aos. Any plans to add that ? Cheers, Edgar

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Re: [Oberon] Text search + FTP
by shark＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 23 Jun '04

23 Jun '04

Edgar, es> I assume that there are still problems somewhere in TCP/IP which are probably also the cause of the FTP problems discussed recently. FWIIW, the same release, Native 05.01.2003, on another machine, FTPs to the same server via PPP without a problem. The problematic case is a LAN connection thru ipmasq on my Linux system at home. Documentation on ipmasq mentions various application specific problems. In the Linux world most of these have been solved but I wonder whether a similar problem is involved here. I don't understand whether those problems are fundamentally in TCP/IP or in ipmasq. Another project for my list. Regards, Peter E. http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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FAT Files for CompactFlash
by Josef Sedlacek 21 Jun '04

21 Jun '04

Hi together We use for a industrial equipement NO 11.10.2001 (this to eliminate logistic problems for maintenance). We use in some applications CompactFlash which has an IDE interface like a hard disk. For that is was neccessary perform small changes in handling remote system flag. Now we get new problems getting bad sector numbers and bad clusters. Meanwhile OFS has changed to FileSystem. Have been done changes in the FAT file hadling so that we could use it in our very old system? Any comment? Thanks in advance Josef -- Company: Radiar, Dr. J. Sedlacek, CH-7554 Sent Tel: +41 (81) 860 06 60 Fax: +41 (81) 860 06 62

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