January 2004 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

Oberon Database
by Dan Parnete 19 Sep '05

19 Sep '05

Hello, I have read this list archives, the documentation inside the distributions, some extra found on the web and I understood. Database is a Tabu word in this community, and is better to not talk about. There is no trace in any distribution (excluding the commercial BlackBox) and the new Bluebottle project doesn't intend to implement one. Ok. It's a choice of live. But don't tell me none of you never needed to put some data altogether. I can't believe nobody extended at list the Library code to more flexible collections management. I saw some database projects started long time ago. Where are this implementations? In other words: if I need a database, have I write it myself? Dan

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Re: [Oberon] Support for Realtek RTL-8139 with Native Oberon
by frey＠inf.ethz.ch 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

> I'm running Native Oberon on a Pentium-II class machine. > How can a network card such as, Realtek RTL-8139 be > configured in Native Oberon ? PCITools.Scan was able to > detect this card as a PCI device. The driver is currently only available for the new Bluebottle OS. http://bluebottle.ethz.ch It should not be too difficult to make a Native Oberon driver out of the Bluebottle OS driver. But... I have no time to do this myself. --Thomas Frey

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Re. NO WebDAV Problems blacklisted
by easlab＠absamail.co.za 05 Feb '04

05 Feb '04

Edgar wrote:- > As I get a about 50 to 100 spams a day I sympathize with what > SORBS is doing. We victims of SVEN got 100 per hour - mostly with BIG attatchments, overflowing the10Mb quota in one hour. easlab(a)absamail.co.za wrote: > > This starts filling in some questions - but from the 'bottom'. > > I will write a skeleton HOW2 'from the top' - the way humans best learn. > That would be nice to give me an example what you mean > by: 'from the top'. > The paradigm of 'management by objectives' and 'top-down design' was popular in the 70's. The project must be seen as a heirarchy/tree. And the higher goal(s) must be known before their components are discussed. I guess WebDAV's final goal is to allow collaboration on different versions of different projects ? If so you perhaps have [and note the tree structure]: persons ID, password project version files read write execute - perhaps apparently from what I read the files have 'attributes' which are important. In a top-down view, one knows why the attributes are important, before one knows how to get the attributes. Ie. you know the 'what' before you worry about the implementation details. > A very rough skeleton would be okay. > As extensive as necessary to give me the idea. > > > ==> 'got' only part of no.AosDNS.Mod > Correct. There is sometimes a problem with reading from the connection. > I already saw it on the client side with Bluebottle. > Will have a look also on NO. > I suspect it being in connection Receive or Available. > Unfortunately a problem which seems to depend on timing (E.g. processor > speed, connection speed) Timing problems can be very difficult to trace on inet systems. Each test-run costs resources. == Chris Glur.

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A pseudo-problem?
by Vasile Rotaru 04 Feb '04

04 Feb '04

Hi, all I don't know whether the following code is correct or not, but both Compiler.Compile and PC.Compile choke on it. (The first with a trap, the second with a criptical report "PC.Compile not done (10/10)".) CONST digits = 10; ops = 5; TYPE Button = .. DigitBtn = .. OpBtn = .. (* auxiliary type used for grouping related items *) Buttons = RECORD digits : ARRAY digits (* constant *) OF DigitBtn; ops : ARRAY ops (* constant *) OF OpBtn; END Of course I may change the name of constants (digits => numOfDigits), but still there must be either a error reported or an .Obx/.Obj file at the end. Regards, Vasile

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Crazy Bluebottle
by Treutwein Bernhard 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

Dear Thomas, thanks a lot for: > I made it available on > portnoy.ethz.ch > user : crazy > password : yesiam -- Bernhard Treutwein, IuK, Ref. III A 3 Bernhard.Treutwein(at)verwaltung uni-muenchen de

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TCP Stack corrupt ?
by Treutwein Bernhard 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Is it possible to make "crazy" available on ftp://ftp.inf.ethz.ch/pub/software/Oberon/ ? -- Bernhard Treutwein, IuK, Ref. III A 3 Bernhard.Treutwein(at)verwaltung uni-muenchen de

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Problems unpacking different zips from crazy: e.g. AosApps.zip
by Treutwein Bernhard 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

hmm, I know crazy is unsupported, but trying to get & install "crazy BlueBottle", I got for two thirds of the archives messages like: "AosApps.zip is not a valid zip-archive" in the System.Log I transfered AosApps.zip to a linux system and tried testing the archive with: "unzip -t AosApps.zip 1>&2 | Mail ..." The results are appended below. What happened ? Corrupt compress program ? -- Bernhard Treutwein, IuK, Ref. III A 3 Bernhard.Treutwein(at)verwaltung uni-muenchen de BdT(at)wildwein.de -----Original Message----- From: Bernhard Treutwein [mailto:treutwei@bernhard.zuv.uni-muenchen.de] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 5:53 PM To: root(a)bernhard.zuv.uni-muenchen.de Subject: AosApps.zip Archive: /zip/AosApps.zip warning [/zip/AosApps.zip]: 7665 extra bytes at beginning or within zipfile (attempting to process anyway) file #1: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 7665 (attempting to re-compensate) testing: DynamicStrings.Obx OK testing: XMLObjects.Obx OK testing: XML.Obx error: invalid compressed data to inflate file #4: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 16044 (attempting to re-compensate) file #4: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 16044 file #5: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 27168 file #6: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 35474 file #7: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 37285 file #8: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 38347 file #9: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 39377 file #10: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 39831 file #11: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 40303 file #12: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 41489 file #13: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 43137 file #14: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 44208 file #15: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 47558 file #16: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 48554 file #17: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 49648 file #18: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 59744 file #19: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 68269 file #20: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 85609 file #21: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 88517 file #22: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 94361 file #23: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 98017 file #24: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 99751 file #25: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 100661 file #26: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 105599 file #27: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 182212 file #28: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 183503 file #29: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 188438 file #30: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 190518 file #31: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 193658 file #32: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 193876 file #33: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 195413 file #34: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 197843 file #35: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 200281 file #36: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 550740 file #37: bad zipfile offset (local header sig): 723449 testing: TFClasses.Obx OK testing: AosMail.Obx OK testing: AosSMTPClient.Obx OK testing: TFLog.Obx OK testing: WebHTTP.Obx OK testing: WebHTTPClient.Obx OK testing: WebHTTPTools.Obx OK testing: WebHTTPServer.Obx OK testing: WebHTTPServerTools.Obx OK testing: WebSSMPPlugin.Obx OK testing: WebDefaultSSMP.Obx OK testing: WebWormWatch.Obx OK testing: AosPOP3Client.Obx OK testing: AosFTPClient.Obx OK testing: AosFTP.Obx OK testing: public.form.html OK testing: public.info.ssmp OK testing: public.System.ssmp OK testing: public.ActiveObjects.ssmp OK testing: public.Memory.ssmp OK testing: public.WebServer.ssmp OK testing: AosQuoteServer.Obx OK testing: AosQuotes.txt OK testing: CATServer.Obx OK testing: RfsConnection.Obx OK testing: RfsClientProxy.Obx OK testing: RfsFS.Obx OK testing: TFTP.Obx OK testing: TFTPServer.Obx OK testing: AosBimboFS.Obx OK testing: WebFTPServer.Obx OK testing: WMLocks.Obx OK testing: WMMessages.Obx OK testing: WMRectangles.Obx OK testing: WMRasterScale.Obx OK testing: WMGraphics.Obx OK testing: WMWindowManager.Obx OK testing: WMDefaultWindows.Obx OK testing: WMDefaultFont.Obx OK testing: WMFontManager.Obx OK testing: WMOberonFonts.Obx OK testing: WMCCGFonts.Obx OK testing: WMBitmapFont.Obx OK testing: WindowManager.Obx OK testing: AosArrow.gif OK testing: AosMove.gif OK testing: WMClose.png OK testing: WMStyle.Obx OK testing: WMEvents.Obx OK testing: WMProperties.Obx OK testing: AosTexts.Obx OK testing: AosTextUtilities.Obx OK testing: WMGraphicUtilities.Obx OK testing: WMComponents.Obx OK testing: ComponentStyle.XML OK testing: WMStandardComponents.Obx OK testing: WMTextView.Obx OK testing: WMInputModes.Obx OK testing: WMIMEArray.Obx OK testing: WMEditors.Obx OK testing: WMMacros.Obx OK testing: Macros.XML OK testing: WMGrids.Obx OK testing: WMStringGrids.Obx OK testing: WMTrees.Obx OK testing: MixerComponents.Obx OK testing: WMTabComponents.Obx OK testing: WMDropTarget.Obx OK testing: WMSystemComponents.Obx OK testing: WMPopups.Obx OK testing: WMDialogs.Obx OK testing: AosDES.Obx OK testing: AosVNCServer.Obx OK testing: WMVNCView.Obx OK testing: AosVNC.Obx OK testing: VNCTetrisServer.Obx OK testing: MainMenu.Obx OK testing: MenuPage10.XML OK testing: MenuPage20.XML OK testing: MenuPage30.XML OK testing: MenuPage40.XML OK testing: MenuPage50.XML OK testing: MenuPage60.XML OK testing: MenuPage70.XML OK testing: WMClock.Obx OK testing: TuringCoatWnd.Obx OK testing: WMBunny.Obx OK testing: BunnyLinear.gif OK testing: bones.gif OK testing: frog.gif OK testing: aos1.gif OK testing: aos2.gif OK testing: aos3.gif OK testing: SisiphusLinear.gif OK testing: WMObjectTracker.Obx OK testing: WMTCPTracker.Obx OK testing: Personal.XML OK testing: WMLog.Obx OK testing: LogWindow.Obx OK testing: WMKeyCode.Obx OK testing: Presentation.Obx OK testing: WMTT.Obx OK testing: WMPicView.Obx OK testing: FractalDemo.XML OK testing: WMScribble.Obx OK testing: TestComponents.Obx OK testing: TestTrees.Obx OK testing: testutf8.txt OK testing: TestComponentDragDrop.Obx OK testing: WMBackdrop.Obx OK testing: AosBackdrop.png OK testing: BluebottlePic0.png OK testing: WMFingerPost.Obx OK testing: Menu.Main.XML OK testing: Menu.Info.XML OK testing: Menu.Services.XML OK testing: Menu.Demo.XML OK testing: Menu.Personal.XML OK testing: StyleSelector.XML OK testing: ksmall.dbuttond.png OK testing: ksmall.dbuttonh.png OK testing: ksmall.dbuttonp.png OK testing: sblueplastic.cdefault.png OK testing: sblueplastic.cmove.png OK testing: sblueplastic.ctext.png OK testing: sblueplastic.ccrosshair.png OK testing: sblueplastic.clr.png OK testing: sblueplastic.cud.png OK testing: sblueplastic.culdr.png OK testing: BluePlastic.Style OK testing: BluePlastic.XML OK testing: blueplastic.abl.png OK testing: blueplastic.abm.png OK testing: blueplastic.abr.png OK testing: blueplastic.aclose.png OK testing: blueplastic.alm.png OK testing: blueplastic.arm.png OK testing: blueplastic.atl.png OK testing: blueplastic.atm.png OK testing: blueplastic.atr.png OK testing: blueplastic.cdefault.png OK testing: blueplastic.cmove.png OK testing: blueplastic.dbuttond.png OK testing: blueplastic.dbuttonh.png OK testing: blueplastic.dbuttonp.png OK testing: blueplastic.ibl.png OK testing: blueplastic.ibm.png OK testing: blueplastic.ibr.png OK testing: blueplastic.iclose.png OK testing: blueplastic.ilm.png OK testing: blueplastic.irm.png OK testing: blueplastic.itl.png OK testing: blueplastic.itm.png OK testing: blueplastic.itr.png OK testing: blueplastic.sbuttond.png OK testing: blueplastic.sbuttonh.png OK testing: blueplastic.sbuttonp.png OK testing: blueplastic.linkhint.png OK testing: Traditional.XML OK testing: traditional.abl.png OK testing: traditional.abm.png OK testing: traditional.abr.png OK testing: traditional.aclose.png OK testing: traditional.alm.png OK testing: traditional.arm.png OK testing: traditional.arrow.png OK testing: traditional.atl.png OK testing: traditional.atm.png OK testing: traditional.atr.png OK testing: traditional.iclose.png OK testing: traditional.itm.png OK testing: traditional.move.png OK testing: RedLook.XML OK testing: redlook.abl.png OK testing: redlook.abm.png OK testing: redlook.abr.png OK testing: redlook.aclose.png OK testing: redlook.alm.png OK testing: redlook.arm.png OK testing: redlook.atl.png OK testing: redlook.atm.png OK testing: redlook.atr.png OK testing: redlook.ibl.png OK testing: redlook.ibm.png OK testing: redlook.ibr.png OK testing: redlook.iclose.png OK testing: redlook.ilm.png OK testing: redlook.irm.png OK testing: redlook.itl.png OK testing: redlook.itm.png OK testing: redlook.itr.png OK testing: HugaLook.XML OK testing: huga.abl.png OK testing: huga.abm.png OK testing: huga.abr.png OK testing: huga.aclose.png OK testing: huga.alm.png OK testing: huga.arm.png OK testing: huga.atl.png OK testing: huga.atm.png OK testing: huga.atr.png OK testing: huga.ibl.png OK testing: huga.ibm.png OK testing: huga.ibr.png OK testing: huga.iclose.png OK testing: huga.itl.png OK testing: huga.itm.png OK testing: huga.itr.png OK testing: PkLook.XML OK testing: pklook.abl.png OK testing: pklook.abm.png OK testing: pklook.abr.png OK testing: pklook.alm.png OK testing: pklook.arm.png OK testing: pklook.atl.png OK testing: pklook.atm.png OK testing: pklook.atr.png OK testing: W3dVectors.Obx OK testing: W3dMatrix.Obx OK testing: W3dGeometry.Obx OK testing: W3dAbstractWorld.Obx OK testing: W3dObjectGenerator.Obx OK testing: W3dRasterizer.Obx OK testing: W3dWorld.Obx OK testing: W3dExplorer.Obx OK testing: W3dMenu.Obx OK testing: W3dMenu.XML OK testing: W3dNetTools.XML OK testing: W3dFun.XML OK testing: W3dPersonal.XML OK testing: W3dClusterWatch.Obx OK testing: Cluster.XML OK testing: tux.bmp OK testing: windows.bmp OK testing: aos.gif OK testing: suse.bmp OK testing: unknowncat.bmp OK testing: nocat.bmp OK testing: oberon.bmp OK testing: objecttracker.bmp OK testing: networktracker.bmp OK testing: launcher.bmp OK testing: tetris.bmp OK testing: iconhome.bmp OK testing: iconvnc.bmp OK testing: iconreload.bmp OK testing: iconbones.bmp OK testing: iconbunny.bmp OK testing: iconfrog.bmp OK testing: iconfire.bmp OK testing: iconfun.bmp OK testing: iconmemory.bmp OK testing: iconnettools.bmp OK testing: iconkeycode.bmp OK testing: iconxml.bmp OK testing: V24Tracer.Obx OK testing: WPM.Obx OK testing: PlayRecWave.Obx OK testing: MP3Player.Obx OK testing: MP3Huffman.Bin OK testing: AosTVDriver.Obx OK testing: AosBT848.Obx OK testing: AosTV.Obx OK testing: AosTVchannels.XML OK testing: TeletextFont.Obx OK testing: teletext.bfnt OK testing: TeletextViewer.Obx OK testing: AosTVRemoteControl.Obx OK testing: AosTV.Tool OK testing: AVI.Obx OK testing: DivXTypes.Obx OK testing: DivXHelper.Obx OK testing: DivXPlayer.Obx OK testing: AosTestLocks.Obx OK testing: AosJavaLocks.Obx OK testing: AosExample1.Obx OK testing: AosExample2.Obx OK testing: AosExample3.Obx OK testing: AosExample4.Obx OK testing: AosExample5.Obx OK testing: AosExample6.Obx OK testing: AosExample7.Obx OK testing: AosExample8.Obx OK testing: AosBenchSpeedup.Obx OK testing: AosBenchObjCount.Obx OK testing: AosBenchClockDrift.Obx OK testing: AosBenchNew.Obx OK testing: AosBenchLocks.Obx OK testing: AosBenchPingPong.Obx OK testing: RFC865Client.Obx OK testing: MD5.Obx OK testing: HTTPSupport.Obx OK testing: HTTPSession.Obx OK testing: DynamicWebpage.Obx OK testing: DynamicWebpagePlugin.Obx OK testing: PrevalenceSystem.Obx OK testing: GenericSort.Obx OK testing: WebStd.Obx OK testing: WebComplex.Obx OK testing: WebAccounts.Obx OK testing: WebForum.Obx OK testing: ExerciseGroups.Obx OK testing: DynamicWebpagePlugin.Text OK testing: accounts.dxp OK testing: rotator.dxp OK testing: test0.dxp OK testing: test1.dxp OK testing: test2.dxp OK testing: test3.dxp OK testing: test4.dxp OK testing: tutorial1.dxp OK testing: tutorial2.dxp OK testing: tutorial3.dxp OK testing: tutorial4.dxp OK testing: tutorial5.dxp OK testing: tutorial6.dxp OK testing: UnihanParser.Obx OK testing: CharacterLineup.Obx OK testing: Song.ccg OK testing: Single.ccg OK testing: Radicals.txt OK testing: cjkfont.bfnt OK testing: AosGfxMatrix.Obx OK testing: AosGfxImages.Obx OK testing: AosGfxPaths.Obx OK testing: AosGfxRegions.Obx OK testing: AosGfxFonts.Obx OK testing: AosGfx.Obx OK testing: AosGfxRaster.Obx OK testing: AosGfxBuffer.Obx OK testing: XMLGeneratorSchema.Obx OK testing: CSS2.Obx OK testing: CSS2Scanner.Obx OK testing: CSS2Parser.Obx OK testing: CSS2Properties.Obx OK testing: XMLComponents.Obx OK testing: XMLStyle.Obx OK testing: XMLLoader.Obx OK testing: GUITest1.xml OK testing: GUITest1.css OK testing: GUITest2.xml OK testing: GUITest2.css OK testing: GUITest3.xml OK testing: GUITest3.css OK testing: GUITest4.xml OK testing: GUITest4.css OK testing: GUITest5.xml OK testing: GUITest5.css OK testing: GUITest6.xml OK testing: GUITest6.css OK testing: GUITest7.xml OK testing: GUITest7.css OK testing: GUITest8.xml OK testing: GUITest8.css OK testing: GUITest9.xml OK testing: GUITest9.css OK testing: GUITest10.xml OK testing: GUITest10.css OK testing: ScrollBar.css OK testing: GUITest1a.css OK testing: Demo1.xml OK testing: Demo1a.css OK testing: Demo1b.css OK testing: DefaultXGS.xml OK testing: Demo2.xml OK testing: Demo2a.css OK testing: arrow1dd.bmp OK testing: arrow1dh.bmp OK testing: arrow1du.bmp OK testing: arrow1ld.bmp OK testing: arrow1lh.bmp OK testing: arrow1lu.bmp OK testing: arrow1rd.bmp OK testing: arrow1rh.bmp OK testing: arrow1ru.bmp OK testing: arrow1ud.bmp OK testing: arrow1uh.bmp OK testing: arrow1uu.bmp OK testing: StringPool.Obx OK testing: PCDebug.Obx OK testing: PCM.Obx OK testing: PCS.Obx OK testing: PCBT.Obx OK testing: PCLIR.Obx OK testing: PCO.Obx OK testing: PCG386.Obx OK testing: PCT.Obx OK testing: PCC.Obx OK testing: PCV.Obx OK testing: PCB.Obx OK testing: PCP.Obx OK testing: PCA386.Obx OK testing: PCOM.Obx OK testing: PCOF.Obx OK testing: PC0.Obx OK testing: Errors.XML OK testing: cnErrors.XML OK testing: MultiLogger.Obx OK testing: ModuleParser.Obx OK testing: PET.Obx OK testing: PETIntro.Text OK testing: S.Obx OK testing: Flash.png OK testing: AosDocu.Obx OK testing: AosDocu.XML OK testing: ProjectBluebottle.Text OK testing: DocUIOverview.Text OK testing: DocWM.Text OK testing: DocComponents.Text OK testing: WMTextTool.Obx OK testing: WMLineFontEditor.Obx OK At least one error was detected in /zip/AosApps.zip.

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ETH Bluebottle Release postponed
by Thomas Frey 28 Jan '04

28 Jan '04

Due to problems with the new TCP stack, the new official release will be postponed. New release date : When the problem is solved. The performance of the new Zero-Copy TCP stack is excellent but the transferred data is sometimes corrupted. We suspect a problem with duplicated TCP segments. We like to thank the people who sent in contributions. The crazy release is currently NOT stable due to the TCP problems. I will send a notice when it makes SOME sense to download it again. --Thomas

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OOC2 Compiler
by Jacques Eloff 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

Hi Does anybody know where I can find the source code for the OOC2 compiler written by Marc Brandis? I know there's a page at sourceforge, but I think its part of the Oberon to C project and partly based on his compiler. I'm looking for the source of the orginal compiler he implemented as part of his PhD that generated code for the PowerPC 601. Is the source still at ETH by any chance? Thanks -- Jacques Eloff Department of Computer Science University of Stellenbosch South Africa http://www.cs.sun.ac.za/~eloff

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New version of Bluebottle
by Gérard Meunier 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

Hello, When I boot on AosCD.Dsk (version of January, 20), I get an empty blue screen, with the mouse cursor, but without any menu window. What is the trick here? Cheers. Gérard

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