October 2010 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

another fault involving SMTP?
by peasthope＠shaw.ca 21 Oct '10

21 Oct '10

Folk, Imagine I send a message to these addresses. to: cougar(a)mountains.org bcc: goat(a)mountains.org In MacOS both recipients see both addresses in the header. In MS-Win each recipient sees only his or her address. According to my very limited understanding of SMTP, this is a fault of the SMTP server. A bcc: recipient should receive only his/her own address. A to: or cc: recipient should not receive bcc: addresses. Whether or not a receiving system shows bcc: addresses is a secondary argument. Can anyone confirm this or correct my misunderstanding? As an additional test this message is addressed To: oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch bcc: eagle(a)mountains.org If the Shaw SMTP server transmits it, I'm curious to know whether the eagle(a)mountains.org is in the header. Thanks for any help, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. 7785886232 is gone. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive; installation of NetBSD on new drives pending. Personal pages, http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ .

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ETH Oberon site
by Nemo 16 Oct '10

16 Oct '10

The ftp site ftp.inf.ethz.ch is not accepting connections from outside ethz.ch. Inquiries have been made to some people there to resolve the issue. j

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Native Oberon in Qemu on Ubuntu 10.10
by Eduardo Cavazos 16 Oct '10

16 Oct '10

Hello, I just wanted to report that I've successfully run Native Oberon in Qemu on Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit. I.e. ran the Oberon0.Dsk, performed the install, and booted the resulting system. Since I'm still unable to reach the ETH FTP site, I used a copy of NO I found on Source Forge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/nativeoberon It's good to know that the Native Oberon system can still be studied on modern systems. :-) Ed

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Pasting text from Linux to LNO
by dukeofperl＠ml1.net 11 Oct '10

11 Oct '10

Hello List.... Happy Thanksgiving Day to all my fellow Canucks! So... Can it be done - pasting from Linux to LNO? BTW, Ive created an "address book" of sorts, using the "mailto" scheme. For example: Desktops.OpenDoc ^ "mailto:oberon@lists.inf.ethz.ch" I simply sellect an address, MM the M.P^, and voila, I've got an email template ready to go. Is there a better way Duke Turner Valley, Alberta, Canada

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Re (2): [Oberon] syntax for eaddress implemented in ETHNO
by peasthope＠shaw.ca 11 Oct '10

11 Oct '10

Trivial as it might appear, there is a note about the implementation of the SMTP Message-ID syntax here. "http://carnot.yi.org/OberonPage.html#Mail" Apparently it's a significant detail for recipients reading messages via a news reader. ... Peter -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. 7785886232 is gone. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive; installation of NetBSD on new drives pending. Personal pages, http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ .

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Format of this message?
by dukeofperl＠ml1.net 11 Oct '10

11 Oct '10

I just added a "style" to the email template that popped up. Anybody know how to make it persistant? I want to wordwrap at 70 characters, e.g. I'm also going to see if my sig is automatically appended . Sorry for the noise! -- >Duke Turner Valley, Alberta, Canada --- start of oberon mail --- Y>@hM8h3606`W:fb:ggjfH2CajbY>FgjBSjFjl1E75hC5KIU3jbY>Fg0L4X330C:8EKMW;M1IH9; I;;I1IH1Y8W;Mc;K;[819MO;8Y;J;;8;KK3KJI;8YKIK;LIKHYKI19MAKHY;8QkKQ;L;;I1IMQ[; 1983ZKc[HO;Ic;8G[KOkM19JOkM19MO;8KKHGKI1IJY;8QKIUkLCkLYKHM;Mo981IB1iM3[KY;8Y kK1iMO[L9kMUKHQ;83;M1i=Q987;J3[L3kHYKIUkLI98;[;?[;KH31IB?IK1IHIkLO;8?kKC[K?; 8YkK>gbFF@VFc2bfVG@>gdNF@Vfi2b`FGjnff6FjVfa6Ffbfl2b`2GhFFgBfbBF@jB@>eg:GiVG@ Jfg:G@BGdFV^m]YM^U=T=4T]\UP\QnTXeM]U]QD]^be]UE^PdZQU]\]\iUUP<X\E\UE^d=\\4T3= \^=\T=\KGX9]XBUa1`C703@b6018051oooQ805D04P0dd101@CE1oooY0380ooo7b0TZU5_dmXQU \W]\dM^^dYUm^CU^iU=QZLOkH4@0#

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Printing From LNO
by dukeofperl＠ml1.net 11 Oct '10

11 Oct '10

Can LNO use a printer connected to a USB port? I can't seem to get mine to print. --

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syntax for eaddress implemented in ETHNO
by peasthope＠shaw.ca 08 Oct '10

08 Oct '10

Folk, According to a mailing list reader, messages I send have a syntax error. Specifically, the local-part of the Message-id ends with ".", violating RFC specifications. Reference "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address" and "http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5321#section-4.1.2". Appears that the last Strings.AppendCh(id, ".") in Mail.SendMsgId should not be there. I didn't check whether the code was adopted into A2. The person who reported the error explained that it causes a problem for his mail to news gateway; it shouldn't be dismissed as harmless. Any comments about this before I assign it to the bug list for "ETH Oberon / PC Native 05.01.2003"? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. 7785886232 is gone. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive; installation of NetBSD on new drives pending. Personal pages, http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ .

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Re: syntax for eaddress implemented in ETHNO
by peasthope＠shaw.ca 08 Oct '10

08 Oct '10

Folk, From: Claudio Nieder <private(a)claudio.c.> Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:10:45 +0200 > And so others don't have to search all through rfc5322 here the relevant rules: ... Thanks Claudio. From: SvZyZw== <joerg.straube(a)iaeth.c.> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:58:19 +0200 > and indeed the Message-ID is syntactically incorrect. Presumeably just an absent minded error from duplicating a line of code. Striking that I've used ETHNO Mail for more than a decade and not found a complaint 'til now. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. 7785886232 is gone. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive; installation of NetBSD on new drives pending. Personal pages, http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ .

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Original edition of Project Oberon
by Eduardo Cavazos 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

Hello, I thought that once upon a time a PDF of the original version of Project Oberon was available. The one currently on the website is the 2005 edition (which is great by the way; I appreciate y'all making it available). Does anyone have a copy of the original version in PDF? Also, the links on the downloads page don't seem to be working: http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/downloads/index Ed

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