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error: MODULE keyword missing
by peter＠easthope.ca 31 Dec '14

31 Dec '14

In LinuxAos rev.5869, Build.Tool Release.Build --path="../Test/" --build --zip --xml A2 ~ was executed. These and more errors appeared. Loading package description file Release.Tool ... done. A2: Check if all files are present... 6s done. A2: Check modules and imports... 0s done. Release.Tool@19452 error: MODULE keyword missing in file TFLog.Mod, first token is Release.Tool@19462 error: A2: Import TFLog not found in file WebHTTP.Mod Release.Tool@19513 error: A2: Import TFLog not found in file WebHTTPClient.Mod ... TFLog.Mod compiles with no error. No problem evident there. Why does Release.Build complain? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +1 360 639 0202 http://carnot.yi.org/ Bcc: peter at easthope. ca

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Project Oberon Network Setup
by Bill Buzzell 25 Dec '14

25 Dec '14

I'm trying to set up the networking and seem to be missing SYSTEM.Mod which is used by SCC.Mod. Where can I find the SYSTEM.GET and SYSTEM.PUT procedures? Thanks

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Re: [Oberon] Project Oberon Network Setup
by peter＠easthope.ca 22 Dec '14

22 Dec '14

From: Bill Buzzell <captbill279(a)gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:09:15 -0500 > The Oberon interface/desktop? My mouse has me totally lost, haha. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_%28operating_system%29#User_interface now has reference 23 to http://www.ethoberon.ethz.ch/ethoberon/tutorial/Mouse.contents.html Probably too late to help you Bill but it might help others. ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +1 360 639 0202 http://carnot.yi.org/ Bcc: peter at easthope. ca

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Build.VMWare.Tool
by peter＠easthope.ca 22 Dec '14

22 Dec '14

At the bottom of http://www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/wiki/Development/Builds "Open Build.VMWare.Tool in PET and follow the steps outlined there." In LinuxAos (rev.5896), Files > Files > searcher shows Build.Tool and Builder.Tool. No Build.VMWare.Tool. Where can it be found? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +1 360 639 0202 http://carnot.yi.org/ Bcc: peter at easthope. ca

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Project Oberon Network Setup
by Bill Buzzell 21 Dec '14

21 Dec '14

Whoa.... Deception, 'not open'? Oberon is the epitome of 'open source', as it looks to me so far. In fact, that is what is so amazing about it. Someone like me, a total noob to Oberon, being able to trace down my issue so easily is a testament to that. No other language is as 'open', or even close to being more 'open'. I would venture to guess that Professor Wirth, by in-lining these particular procedures, did so to for a good reason. Probably the performance gains warrant a wee bit of extra complexity? The Oberon interface/desktop? My mouse has me totally lost, haha. I finally figured out why the compiler wasn't working. I had stray selections highlighted in other panels affecting the commands. You don't just sit down and go in Oberon like other OS's. I see Oberon demands you to relearn from the ground up. Of coarse, this is good and necessary to understand how to use Oberon's advanced features.

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Build.VMWare.Tool
by peter＠easthope.ca 21 Dec '14

21 Dec '14

At the bottom of http://www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/wiki/Development/Builds "Open Build.VMWare.Tool in PET and follow the steps outlined there." In LinuxAos (rev.5896) the searcher shows Build.Tool and Builder.Tool. No Build.VMWare.Tool. Where can it be found? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +1 360 639 0202 http://carnot.yi.org/ Bcc: peter at easthope. ca

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Project Oberon Compiler and General Basic
by Bill Buzzell 21 Dec '14

21 Dec '14

J?rg, I figured out the scrolling. Man, how did I miss that scroll bar on the left? Embarrassing. Here is the "Hello World" .Mod: MODULE Hello; IMPORT Oberon, Texts; VAR W: Texts.Writer; PROCEDURE World*; BEGIN Texts.WriteString(W, "Hello World!"); Texts.WriteLn(W); Texts.Append(Oberon.Log, W.buf); END World; BEGIN Texts.OpenWriter(W); END Hello. I am able to compile this minimal .mod : MODULE Test; BEGIN END Test; I am using the FPGA "Project Oberon" which uses the NRF2401 module/board. Perhaps the pinouts are slightly different for this version I have which is a generic which has no listed pinout design. I am the proud owner of TWO of these Pipistrello FPGA's now. I had a power issue with the mouse and Magnus sent me one of his new designs while troubleshooting the issue. Turned out to be simply not enough amps to the 5v USB cable. I decided to keep the second unit to use to run the OpenLogic Sniffer logic analyzer which Magnus has set up for the Pipistrello. It turns out that this logic analyzer is a great bargain. Much more powerful than the typical USB logic analyzers available. It will capture at 200mhz with a large buffer comparable to a professional logic analyzer costing thousands of dollars. It looks to be in a class all it's own. Definitely worth a look! http://saanlima.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8 Magnus has done a great job with getting Project Oberon going on this powerful Spartan 6 LX45 based FPGA. The boot time for Oberon, once flashed, is instantaneous. Zero boot time. I assumed there would always be a few seconds of boot time with an FPGA. Nice. I hope to troubleshoot this network issue an put the Logic Sniffer through it's paces. Thanks

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Project Oberon Compiler and General Basic Questions
by Bill Buzzell 18 Dec '14

18 Dec '14

When I try to compile a "Hello.Mod" it complains with : "Position 10 must start with MODULE" I carefully double checked for typos and even started from scratch several times and keep getting this error. All the included apps compile with no issues. Also, I cannot figure out how to scroll the page in a viewer. What am I missing? Thanks again

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Re: [Oberon] Oberon Digest, Vol 127, Issue 13
by Bill Buzzell 18 Dec '14

18 Dec '14

Thanks Chris and Robert. I see now that all these types of procedures are written in all caps. I am trying to track down why my Networking.Mod hangs Oberon when I try to start it. When I click "Net.StartServer" it responds with "Network started as " and hangs. I am running Oberon on the Pipistrello FPGA. Do I need to do any other configuration? Thanks again On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:00 AM, <oberon-request(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch> wrote: > > Send Oberon mailing list submissions to > oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oberon-request(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oberon-owner(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Oberon digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Project Oberon Network Setup (Chris Burrows) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 22:32:32 +1030 > From: "Chris Burrows" <chris(a)cfbsoftware.com> > Subject: Re: [Oberon] Project Oberon Network Setup > To: "'ETH Oberon and related systems'" <oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch> > Message-ID: <000901d019f1$574dbeb0$05e93c10$(a)cfbsoftware.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > There is no SYSTEM.Mod source file, symbol file or object file. SYSTEM > functions are built-in 'compiler magic' or 'pseudo-functions'. All you have > to do is IMPORT SYSTEM into a module - you then will automatically have > access to SYSTEM.GET and SYSTEM.PUT. > > Most SYSTEM 'procedures' and 'functions' only look like procedures and > functions. E.g. when you compile a module with a SYSTEM.GET statement, the > compiler generates inline code that loads a value from an absolute memory > address into a variable. It does not generate code to call a procedure. > > Regards, > Chris Burrows > > CFB Software > http://www.astrobe.com > > From: Bill Buzzell [mailto:captbill279@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2014 4:02 PM > To: oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch > Subject: [Oberon] Project Oberon Network Setup > > I'm trying to set up the networking and seem to be missing SYSTEM.Mod > which is used by SCC.Mod. Where can I find the SYSTEM.GET and SYSTEM.PUT > procedures? > > Thanks > > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon > > > End of Oberon Digest, Vol 127, Issue 13 > *************************************** >

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Re: [Oberon] Kernel Revision - was A2 and NO installers under bochs.
by Treutwein Bernhard 16 Dec '14

16 Dec '14

Thanks Günter. Maybe it should be adjusted at least whem a new release is build ... -----Original Message----- From: Guenter Feldmann [fld(a)informatik.uni-bremen.de] Received: Montag, 15 Dez. 2014, 14:50 To: ETH Oberon and related systems [oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch] Subject: Re: [Oberon] A2 and NO installers under bochs. On 12/15/14 01:11 PM, Treutwein Bernhard wrote: >> The complete serial port trace follows. Somewhat odd that the trace >> reports Rev-5387 whereas the image is named 5668. >> > > I have been wondering about this difference also, I was not sure about > that, but I guessed that the reported revision is the revision of > Kernel.Mod. But, when I tried to assure that hypothesis, I found > that in my SVN checkout (which was used to create the ISO image > Peter used), the last committed version of Kernel.Mod is Rev. 5552 > and my current global revision version is 5894. > > So it must be a different file, which creates that revision number. > At least I was able to dig out that 5387 was committed on 23-Aug-2013 > but the commit message is completely unrelated to the Kernel :-( > > -- > Bernhard > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon > The revision number reported by the kernel is a string constant exported by module I386.Machine.Mod: CONST Version = "A2 Revision 5387 (23.08.2013)"; The current svn revision number is 5894. -- Guenter -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Günter Feldmann c/o Universität Bremen | Tel.: +49 421 218-63880 Fachbereich 3, Mathematik und Informatik | Büro und Lieferadresse: D-28334 Bremen, Bibliotheksstr. 1 | Gebäude MZH, Raum 2360 ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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