April 2003 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

ET.Popup.Menu and clock
by peter_easthope＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 10 Apr '03

10 Apr '03

Considering that almost all configuration settings are in Oberon.Text I wonder whether the ET popup menu might be specified there also. This syntax could work. ETPopupMenu = { "Compiler.Compile *", "ET.Open ^", "ET.Left", "ET.Right", "ET.Move" } -----------------==----------------- "http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/OberonText.html" has this remark. "The group System.TimeDiff specifies the time difference of PC clock to GMT." This implies that the PC hardware clock is set to local time and that System.TimeDiff = LT - GMT. Was this really the intention of the designer? A document about timekeeping in Linux ( http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html ) claims that the preferred option is to keep it [hardware clock] in UTC ...". Regards, Peter E. http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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Re: [Oberon] booting from bluebottle cd results in blackscreen
by urs.sonderegger＠fhsg.ch 09 Apr '03

09 Apr '03

Hello Patrik I'm working with Christoph Stamm at the bootproblem with bluebottle. The CD-ROM is SCSI with SCSI-ID 6. I've tried to get some trace-sesults while booting. Unfortunately without success. I tried many combinations of parameters, for serial- and screen-trace but I never got any traces. Perhaps we have a problem with the graphic-device. We tried the same CD on a Compaq ARMADA E500 with 14" TFT-Screen and a IDE CD-ROM. It hangs also. But on my own Laptop a ARMADA E500 with 15" TFT and IDE CD-ROM it works fine?! Many thanks for your help and best regards Urs Sonderegger ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FHS Hochschule für Technik, Wirtschaft und Soziale Arbeit St. Gallen Urs Sonderegger Tellstrasse 2 9001 St.Gallen tel ++4171 220 37 45 fax ++4171 220 37 05 mail urs.sonderegger(a)fhsg.ch -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |---------+---------------------------> | | "Patrik Reali" | | | <reali(a)acm.org> | | | Sent by: | | | oberon-admin@inf| | | .ethz.ch | | | | | | | | | 08.04.2003 08:30| | | Please respond | | | to oberon | | | | |---------+---------------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: <oberon(a)inf.ethz.ch> | | cc: | | Subject: Re: [Oberon] booting from bluebottle cd results in blackscreen | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| This is strange indeed. Is the CD-ROM device IDE or SCSI? Can you use the serial line trace, or otherwise boot setting the trace to the machine screen (text mode) and check where it hangs? (sorry, I don't remember the TraceMode parameters, and have no network access available at the moment). -Patrik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christoph Stamm" <stamm(a)inf.ethz.ch> To: <oberon(a)inf.ethz.ch> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: [Oberon] booting from bluebottle cd results in blackscreen > Hello > > I've written a bootable CD for bluebottle. Booting and installing works > well on several PCs. > > Recently I've tried the same on a PC with SCSI disk and a motherboard > embedded Adaptec AIC-2940U2/W disk controller and a 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 > graphics adapter. Unfortunately, booting ends with a black screen after > the message "Oberon loading". > > Booting both Oberon0 and Native Oberon (beta version 31.7.00) works well > on this system. > > Is it a disk controller or a graphics adapter problem or even something > else? > > Christoph Stamm > > > > -- > Oberon(a)inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > http://www.lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon > -- Oberon(a)inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems http://www.lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon

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DLL / COM / ActiveX with Plugin Oberon (Win XP)
by Treutwein Bernhard 09 Apr '03

09 Apr '03

Apparently PluginOberon for Windows NT allows the creation of DLLs and supports COM / ActiveX (see Emil Zeller's page about linking EXEs and DLLs in Plugin-Oberon http://www.cs.inf.ethz.ch/~zeller/plugins.html#PELinker and let Watson browse for COM ). Does some brave soul have experiences with it and is willing to share these experiences ? -- Bernhard Treutwein, IuK, Ref. III A 3 Bernhard.Treutwein (at) verwaltung uni-muenchen de BdT (at) wildwein de

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Ctrl/Break, tasking, ser-port ?
by eas-lab＠absamail.co.za 09 Apr '03

09 Apr '03

Hi, I've invested considerable effort in chasing this bug and would like to complete the war soon !! There's a complex interaction between a failed/aborted ppp connection, the next attempt at ppp (which calls the dialer > V24) and Ctrl/Break. I need to know how critically timed ( needs to be repeated several times until it 'hits the target') Ctrl/Break could 'unlock the bad-state' and allow ppp/dial to work. ( The symptom is that the modem lights activate but no dial tone. eg. as if the bytes sent were bad. ) Is the source for Ctrl/Break response available ? Is it in the kernel ? -- Chris Glur. PS. Extract from NewsGroup comp.protocols.ppp: > > That's almost what I suspect. Except that no other task is > > supposed to use the 2nd serial port. I believe that with a good > > ppp 'flight' the ser-port 'lands' after it's finnished. > > But when the connection aborts abnormally, the ser-port > > doesn't land - ready for the next take-off. It stays 'up'. > > Then that narrows the search. It's the system-dependent code in your > PPP implementation that opens the serial port for use with PPP that's > most likely to be broken. {BTW the 'man who wrote the book' contributes to this NewsGroup, so I'm taking advantage to fully understand ppp and will try to write a minimalist/Wirthian description. } PSS. I never imagined that using the serial port was so complicated: Installing and de-installing interrupts and checking for various chip families and ....! The code base of n-o represents a big investment for humanity.

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booting from bluebottle cd results in blackscreen
by Christoph Stamm 08 Apr '03

08 Apr '03

Hello I've written a bootable CD for bluebottle. Booting and installing works well on several PCs. Recently I've tried the same on a PC with SCSI disk and a motherboard embedded Adaptec AIC-2940U2/W disk controller and a 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 graphics adapter. Unfortunately, booting ends with a black screen after the message "Oberon loading". Booting both Oberon0 and Native Oberon (beta version 31.7.00) works well on this system. Is it a disk controller or a graphics adapter problem or even something else? Christoph Stamm

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Problems with Adaptec 7890
by Christoph Stamm 08 Apr '03

08 Apr '03

Hello I'm using a PC with a motherboard embedded Adaptec AHA-2940U2/W SCSI disk controller (BIOS version 2.11). I've tried to install the stable version of Native Oberon (2.3.6). It failed during disk controller configuration with a TRAP 8 (assert). When I use the beta version of Native Oberon (31.7.00) then it works fine, but it fails again with the latest beta version (8.12.00). Is this problem known? Christoph Stamm

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Native Alpha 5.Jan.2003 Feedback: problems with OFSISO
by Treutwein Bernhard 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

Since only my Addendum pops up in the list archive, I try it a second time ... (without attachment :-) -- Bernhard Treutwein, IuK, Ref. III A 3 Bernhard.Treutwein(at)verwaltung.uni-muenchen.de -----Original Message----- From: Treutwein Bernhard Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:50 AM To: Oberon Mailing Liste (oberon(a)inf.ethz.ch) Subject: Native Alpha 5.Jan.2003 Feedback: problems with OFSISO Hi out there, I have several problems with the Iso Filesystem: 1. I see only the contents of the vry first session. Is it possible that Native does read only the first session and ignores stuff, which was put on the CD in a second session ? 2. FileSystem.Mount CD ISOFS IDE2 ~ FileSystem.Unmount CD: FileSystem.Mount CD ISOFS IDE2 ~ of the same CD gets me the following in the System log: System.Time 04.04.2003 08:25:22 ETH Oberon / PC Native 05.01.2003 Press Shift to configure mouse Mouse movement detected CD: mounted CD: unmounted CD: OFSISO9660Volumes.New failed -- Bernhard Treutwein, IuK, Ref. III A 3 Bernhard.Treutwein(at)verwaltung.uni-muenchen.de

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Addendum: Native Alpha 5.Jan.2003 Feedback: problems with OFSISO
by Treutwein Bernhard 04 Apr '03

04 Apr '03

In a second attempt I was not able to reproduce the following problem (after a reboot), but I had it twice reproducibly ... strange 2. FileSystem.Mount CD ISOFS IDE2 ~ FileSystem.Unmount CD: FileSystem.Mount CD ISOFS IDE2 ~ of the same CD gets me the following in the System log: System.Time 04.04.2003 08:25:22 ETH Oberon / PC Native 05.01.2003 Press Shift to configure mouse Mouse movement detected CD: mounted CD: unmounted CD: OFSISO9660Volumes.New failed regards -- Bernhard Treutwein, IuK, Ref. III A 3 Bernhard.Treutwein(at)verwaltung.uni-muenchen.de

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Re: [Oberon] Text to ASCII Tool
by peter_easthope＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 02 Apr '03

02 Apr '03

Bernhard, bt> is there any ready made tool in ETH Oberon (Native) for converting a bunch of Text files to ASCII (i.e. DeOberoning it). In PC Native 24.08.2002, Miscellaneous.Tool, it is the first command. Miscellaneous.MakeAscii => ~ strip a text of Oberon features Regards, Peter E. http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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Text to ASCII Tool
by Treutwein Bernhard 02 Apr '03

02 Apr '03

is there any ready made tool in ETH Oberon (Native) for converting a bunch of Text files to ASCII (i.e. DeOberoning it). I know this is easily possible with loading into ET and storing as ASCII, but I would prefer to have some tool for this task. thanks in advance -- Bernhard Treutwein Bernhard.Treutwein(at)verwaltung.uni-muenchen.de (work) BdT(at)wildwein.de (home)

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