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Win Aos Oberon 1.02 alpha available
by Felix Friedrich 14 Jun '03

14 Jun '03

Hi all, The new version 1.02 alpha of Win Aos Oberon is now available, see http://www.bluebottle.ethz.ch/WinAos . All recent bugfixes are included. - moved Win32.NetSystem.Mod to Win32.AosWinsock.Mod, new modules Win32.AosTCP.Mod, Win32.AosDNS.Mod, Win32.AosUDP.Mod, Win32.AosDHCP.Mod available, they use the pseudo network driver module AosWinsock. ! AosWinsock needs module Oberon, this is a temporary patch to make AosTCP etc. running. - Win32.NetSystem.Mod replaced by Aos.NetSystem.Mod - enhanced mouse wheel support (scrolling TextGadgets, Lists, zooming Voyager Ports / antsImages etc.) An installer including AntsInFields is also available, see http://www.antsinfields.de Felix.

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Re (2): [Oberon] printer daemon
by peter_easthope＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 13 Jun '03

13 Jun '03

Jacques, Thanks for the reply. je> Previously we were using LPD, but worth works fine. Seems a typographical error here. You are saying that CUPS works as well as LPD for printing from Oberon? ... P. http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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Re: [Oberon] Native: PPPMain + tasking + Ctrl/Break ?
by Edgar＠EdgarSchwarz.de 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Hi Chris > when the ppp 'connection' is unsuccesfull, the next dialup attempt > traces: -------- > > Dial script startedModem off-line, device 0 closed > > Sending [ATZ] > Waiting 10s for [OK] { > --- and a few seconds pause, then 10 seconds probably :-) > } > Dialer: Timed out > Dialer: Script aborted This appears to me like the modem is in a bad state and isn't reacting on an ATZ. Perhaps because it has still some connection to the switch. Do you try to turn off/on the modem power in this case ? Regards Edgar -- edgar(a)edgarschwarz.de "http://www.edgarschwarz.de" "http://www.edgar-schwarz.de/forum/oberon" Running Active Oberon Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler. Albert Einstein

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Unix Oberon and Redhat 9.0
by Jacques Eloff 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Hi I've recently upgraded from Redhat 7.0 to 9.0. I've been using Linux Oberon, release 2.3.7b under RH7.0, but it does not seem to work under RH9.0. I've tried relase 2.3.8a as well, but it gives the same problems. The system runs fine for while and then the main thread just stops. The other threads are still active (I checked this with "ps -le"). There's no segmentation faults or anything strange. Oberon just reports that it has exited, something like "[1]+ Stopped oberon" or "[2]+ Stopped oberon". The X-window containing Oberon is not even closed when this happens. Has anyone had similar problems? I've run the testgcc programs that came with Oberon and everything seems happy with the way the system is set up. I've also tried using the old glibc5.0 instead of glibc6.0 binaries, but the results are always the same. I've also tried using the latest LNO with my AOS partition, but LNO also refused to execute. According to the oberon.log file, the partition could be accessed, but then it traps with a page fault and drops me back to my xterm. Regards -- Jacques Eloff Department of Computer Science University of Stellenbosch http://www.cs.sun.ac.za/~eloff

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Unix Oberon and Redhat 9.0
by Necati Ecevit 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Jacques Eloff wrote: > I've recently upgraded from Redhat 7.0 to 9.0. I've been using Linux > Oberon, release 2.3.7b under RH7.0, but it does not seem to work > under RH9.0. I've tried relase 2.3.8a as well, but it gives the same problems. > > The system runs fine for while and then the main thread just stops. The > other threads are still active (I checked this with "ps -le"). There's no > segmentation faults or anything strange. Oberon just reports that it > has exited, something like "[1]+ Stopped oberon" or "[2]+ Stopped oberon". > The X-window containing Oberon is not even closed when this happens. > Has anyone had similar problems? Yes, I had the same problem with Linux Oberon 2.3.8a release on RH9.0. I solved the problem by recompiling the oberon.c with disabling the thread support. It is written in src/x86/Unix/oberon.c, without Threads support: * Linux: gcc -o linux.oberon -DLINUX oberon.c -ldl -lm Then, I replaced this new linux.oberon file with the previous one. Necati.

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Unix Oberon and Redhat 9.0
by eas-lab＠absamail.co.za 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Jacques Eloff wrote: > I've recently upgraded from Redhat 7.0 to 9.0. I've been using Linux > Oberon, release 2.3.7b under RH7.0, but it does not seem to work > under RH9.0. I've tried relase 2.3.8a as well, but it gives the same problems. > > The system runs fine for while and then the main thread just stops. The > other threads are still active (I checked this with "ps -le"). There's no > segmentation faults or anything strange. Oberon just reports that it > has exited, something like "[1]+ Stopped oberon" or "[2]+ Stopped oberon". > The X-window containing Oberon is not even closed when this happens. > Has anyone had similar problems? I've run the testgcc programs that > came with Oberon and everything seems happy with the way the system > is set up. I've also tried using the old glibc5.0 instead of glibc6.0 > binaries, but the results are always the same. > > I've also tried using the latest LNO with my AOS partition, but LNO also > refused to execute. According to the oberon.log file, the partition could be > accessed, but then it traps with a page fault and drops me back to my xterm. -- I've still got the mental images of all the bug discussion in the *linux* NewsGroups re. RH8.0. We appreciate those who sacrifice themselves on the bleeding edge. BTW. can you list (or point to docs. re.) significant improvements of LNO 2.3.7, 2.3.8 over 2.3.6 ? -- Chris Glur.

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traps with new system board
by peter_easthope＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Yesterday I replaced an old 486 board with an ASUS P55TPAN P166; the system now keeps time properly. Mouse, keyboard, drive access and network access all seem OK. Retrieving mail with Get on the Mail.Panel always yields a trap and no two of the reports have been similar. The latest two trap reports follow. Can anyone offer a idea to pursue? I wonder whether a subtle error remains in the configuration of the new board. Thanks for any ideas, Peter E. TRAP -14 NIL reference ( 00000000H ) (PC Native 24.08.2002) Input.Mouse PC = 9570 dx = 0 dy = 0 dz = 0 keys = {} mousekeys = {} ok = FALSE p = 00100000H rawkeys = {} state = {} x = 0 y = 0 Oberon.Loop PC = 7958 M = 00000010H N = 0000000CH V = 00000000H X = 0 Y = 0 ch = 00000000X keys = {} old ======================================== TRAP -13 General protection fault (PC Native 24.08.2002) Kernel.WriteChar PC = 917 adr = 0 c = s flags = {1 .. 2, 6, 9, 12 .. 13} status = {} Kernel.WriteString PC = 1173 i = 2 s = "resolved" NetIP.ArpSend PC = 1317 dev = 00245BA0H entry = 0005CA60H fnd = TRUE ipdst = 00000089X, R, 0000001AX, 000000FEX item = 003DAB00H route = 00246C00H NetIP.IPSend PC = 2574 dev = 00000000H dmy = 00000000X dst = 0000008EX, 0000001FX, 000000C4X, 0000000BX hdr = 003DB0B2H i = 0 item = 003DAB00H protocol = 6 src = 00000089X, R, 0000001AX, 000000AEX NetTCP.SendItem PC = 2061 dst = 0000008EX, 0000001FX, 000000C4X, 0000000BX item = 003DAB00H src = 00000089X, R, 0000001AX, 000000AEX tcph = 003DB0C6H NetTCP.SendData PC = 4301 C = 003D20A0H dlen = 0 dlen0 = 16 hcode = 24 hseq = 6324 item = 003DAB00H l = ", 00000000X offs = 2292152 retrans = TRUE sfst = 16 spos = 1514 tcph = 003DB0C6H NetTCP.Retrans PC = 4341 C = 003D20A0H NetTCP.Output PC = 4996 C = 003D20A0H type = 1 NetTCP.Timer PC = 11029 c = 00000000H item = 00000000H t = 443314 tv = 003DAAE0H NetBase.Poll PC = 1566 @for = 1 @for = 0 i = 1 item = 00000000H j = 34 prno = 8352 src = =, 00000000X, `, c, ", 00000000X NetTCP.Receive PC = 12438 C = 003D20A0H beg = 0 buf = 00000000X dst = 4006016 l = 1176776 len = 1 len0 = 64 NetSystem.TCPReceive PC = 4547 C = 003D2080H beg = 0 buf = 00000000X l = 1 len = 1 res = 0 NetSystem.ReadString PC = 6689 C = 003D2080H ch = 00000000X ch0 = 00000000X i = 0 s = "+OK POP3 server at gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca ready <20030611172300.1760" ... Mail.ReadState PC = 2932 S = 003D0940H Mail.OpenPOP PC = 4466 S = 003D0940H apop = FALSE host = "gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca" hostIP = 197402510 login = TRUE passwd = "poLygon" port = 110 user = "peasthope" Mail.Synchronize PC = 11038 R = 00000078H Ri = 00000038H S = 003D0940H Sc = 00000074H add = FALSE apop = FALSE ch = 00000000X i = 0 k = 0 maxSize = 700000 new = 0 newSet = 00000000H obj = 00000000H onServer = TRUE passwd = "poLygon" pop = "gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca" pos = 0 set = 00000000H uT = 00000000H uidl = "" user = "peasthope" Oberon.Call PC = 4847 Mod = 002AC100H P = Mail.Synchronize PC = 10573 i = 5 j = 16 name = "Synchronize" new = FALSE par = 003D08C0H res = 1 Gadgets.Execute PC = 11250 S = 000000ACH T = 00000000H ch = 00000000X chl = 654 cmd = "Mail.Synchronize" cw = 800 cx = 0 cy = -54 dlink = 002AADC0H executor = 003C27A0H i = 16 j = 16 obj = 003C4A40H oldcontext = 00000000H receiver = 00000000H res = 1 sender = 00000000H str = FALSE Gadgets.ExecuteAttr PC = 20539 A = 00000028H F = 003C27A0H attr = "Cmd" dlink = 002AADC0H receiver = 00000000H sender = 00000000H BasicGadgets.ButtonHandler PC = 17698 F = 003C27A0H F2 = 00000000H M = 00000038H R = 00000000H f = 00000000H h = 23 keysum = {1} ver = 0 w = 42 x = 40 y = 385 Panels.ToChild PC = 1162 F = 002AADC0H Fdlink = 00000000H M = 00000058H Mdlink = 002A9640H f = 003C27A0H u = 0 v = 380 x = 0 y = 380 Panels.TrackMouse PC = 11289 F = 002AADC0H Fdlink = 00000000H M = 00000084H Mdlink = 00000000H T = 003C27A0H t = 579 u = 0 v = 0 x = 0 y = 380 Panels.PanelHandler PC = 20563 F = 002AADC0H F2 = 00000000H M = 0000002CH R = 00000000H U = 00000060H h = 200 obj = 00000000H t = 00000000H u = 0 v = 380 w = 384 x = 0 y = 380 Documents.ToMain PC = 4286 F = 002A9640H Fdlink = 00000000H M = 00000058H Mdlink = 003C4A40H ox = 0 oy = 380 tx = 0 ty = 380 Documents.Handler PC = 8582 F = 002A9640H F0 = 00000000H M = 00000038H N = 00000060H R = 00000000H h = 200 obj = 00000000H tM = 00000044H tmp = {} w = 384 x = 0 y = 380 PanelDocs.DocHandle PC = 4103 D = 002A9640H M = 0000001CH Gadgets.Send PC = 14632 M = 0000006CH S = 00000020H X = 0 Y = 0 from = 003C4A40H to = 002A9640H Views.ToFrame PC = 1096 B = 00000060H F = 003C4A40H M = 0000004CH u = 0 v = 579 y = 0 Views.TrackMouse PC = 12466 C = 00000014H D = 00000038H F = 003C4A40H Fdlink = 00000000H L = 0000003CH M = 00000070H Mdlink = 00000000H S = 00000044H f = 00000000H h = 580 keysum = {} last0 = 00000000H w = 500 x = 0 y = 0 Views.ViewHandler PC = 15840 F = 003C4A40H F0 = 00000000H M = 00000024H h = 580 u = 0 v = 0 w = 500 x = 0 y = 0 Desktops.DocViewerHandle PC = 4785 M = 00000038H Main = 003C4A40H Menu = 003C4B80H V = 003CC360H V1 = 00000000H Oberon.Loop PC = 8548 M = 00000010H N = 0000000CH V = 003CC360H X = 58 Y = 395 ch = % keys = {1} oldshift = {} shift = {} System.Init PC = 20160 F = 00216800H S = 00000044H T = 00216780H Wt = 00000050H ok = TRUE OFSBoot.Call PC = 413 c = System.Init PC = 19636 cmd = "Init" i = 11 j ======================================== http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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Native: PPPMain + tasking + Ctrl/Break ?
by eas-lab＠absamail.co.za 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Native-Oberoners, This seldom occuring bug which I've been chasing for a long time shows as follows: when the ppp 'connection' is unsuccesfull, the next dialup attempt traces: -------- Dial script startedModem off-line, device 0 closed Sending [ATZ] Waiting 10s for [OK] { --- and a few seconds pause, then } Dialer: Timed out Dialer: Script aborted --------- The modem lights show 'activity', but no dial tone etc. is heard. This seems to be the problem - System.ShowTasks shows: NetSystem PC = 13426 safe 14882775 ready Oberon PC = 5015 safe 269259441 waiting 68259ms PPPMain PC = 84 unsafe 0 ready <--- ??! System.Free PPPMain == PPPMain unloaded cause( on the next try to Dial & ppp): TRAP 1189294 HALT statement (PC Native 11.10.2001) Unknown EIP = 0029C53CH EBP = 00120018H ...then I have to do a M$ (reboot). I can't remember how I discovered it, but repeated (until apparently 'the critical time is hit') Ctrl/Break , 'unlocks' the problem. Someone who understands the tasking can perhaps anaylyse the cause. The Ctrl/Break unlocking the problem suggests an intreresting timing effect ? I'm using version 2001, but I guess that this bug has not yet been 'fixed' in later versions. -- Chris Glur.

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printer daemon
by peter_easthope＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Linux documentation says that this Debian system can run LPD or LPRng or CUPS and that LPRng and CUPS are preferable to LPD. The Oberon printer Web page describes use with LPD. Before I set that up, has anyone tested LPRng or CUPS? Recommendations? Thanks, Peter E. http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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Re: [Oberon] XML Module in Bluebottle Native (May 22, 2002)
by frey＠inf.ethz.ch 08 Jun '03

08 Jun '03

> by executing XMLDocument.Write a Trap occurs in the procedure > XMLAttribute.Write. What kind of trap ? Is your attribute type > 9 ? attr.GetType(); --Thomas

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