February 2005 - Oberon - mailman3.inf.ethz.ch

Coping with Word documents
by easlab＠absamail.co.za 09 Feb '05

09 Feb '05

Thu Jan 13 21:49:09 MET 2005, Soren Renner said, > > ... we have what is clearly the best OS and > > language project in the world*1, yet almost > > noone will pay any attention to it. Peter E. wrote: > In many environments, editing of Word documents > is necessary. Ref. http://www.abisource.com/ ] a native OS X frontend So It could run under linux ? Yes, coping with Word documents is as essential as coping with flu-virus or taxes. This what I regularly [have to] do:- * apparently all the formatting info is at the beginning and end of the file - although once I received a Word document containing pictures. * cut off the head and the tail = find where the head stops and the real text starts == eliminate the (line-len > display-width) in order to be able to READ the text. I use: Mail.CutLines 76 * = this can be problematic, since it cuts the line(s) at word breaks, so there can be problems when there are no 'word breaks' for a string of say 500 chars. === I use various heuristics to find the beginning of the 'real text, which is possible given the speed of n-o's cording. ---------------- Since the header-formatting-info is mostly non-ascii, perhaps someone who is comfortable with RX.Tool can write a few lines to: delete all the non-ascii chars ? Although perhaps: 1. this is too slow, 2. RX.Tool also has problems with lines being too long. == Chris Glur.

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Aos freezing.
by shark＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 09 Feb '05

09 Feb '05

The current release of Aos freezes on this machine just as the Xmas one did---frequently enough to be unusable. I've made an Aos page and described the problem in more detail there. Also a few comments which might interst André or Thomas. Desktops.OpenDoc "http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/aos.html" Regards, ... Peter E. http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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PACO and SYSTEM.BYTE
by Dan Parnete 07 Feb '05

07 Feb '05

Hello, The parallel compiler doesn't accept relational operations with SYSTEM.BYTE? This code: VAR a, b: SYSTEM.BYTE; BEGIN IF a = b THEN .... gives error 111 “operand inapplicable to (this) function”. Is it any reason for that? The OPC accepts it. Thanks, Dan Parnete

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BB skin problem
by Dan Parnete 06 Feb '05

06 Feb '05

Hello, I'm using the Xmas skin in BB for Windows and I've noticed this strange thing: I have Notepad and Text Style opened on the desktop (in Auto.dsk). With this starting sequence in Aos.Text: Aos="MainMenu.Open" Aos="SkinEngine.Load xmas.skin" Aos="WMRestorable.Load Auto.dsk" it frequently happens that some/all buttons of Notepad or Text Style are not rendered. Just didn't exist. This happens only with Xmas skin, witch is the heaviest. Because of the delay in Windows rendering (BB is much faster in that) some time I can see appearing part of the buttons in zeroskin and then the skin going over, but not all of them have had time to display on. If I change the starting sequence in: Aos="SkinEngine.Load xmas.skin" Aos="MainMenu.Open" Aos="WMRestorable.Load Auto.dsk" it rarely happens losing some button, or none. I don't know what is the reason, but I can suppose concurrency is not always an easy horse to ride on. Where is time of old, dear, sequential Oberon? Regards, Dan Parnete

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BBw indentation
by Dan Parnete 06 Feb '05

06 Feb '05

Hello, The ALT key is not used in Oberon Windows disributions. In respect of that, I have moved WMEditors indentation on CTRL-K, CTRL-L. Pick up BBw-update-060205.zip from: ftp://82.186.239.82 user: dan password: parnete Ceers, Dan Parnete

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BB for Windows
by Dan Parnete 05 Feb '05

05 Feb '05

Hello, The network is finally available. AosQuoteServer and RFC865Client are working fine. There is the WebHTTP too, but I didn't test it. This is enough for my needs. From this point it's relatively easy to port any other messing module you need from the Bluebottle distribution. You can find the 9.8Mb file BBw-05.02.05.zip on: ftp://82.186.239.82 user: dan password: parnete Ceers, Dan Parnete

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Where did the png files go ?
by Soren Renner 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Where are the png images that used to be part of BB? For instance, the cursor arraw? Is it hidden inside an xml file? I could figure this ot, but I am asking anyway.

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names of commands
by shark＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

Anyone using Aos, Some commands are available in Aos but not in Oberon / Aos, others are available both in Aos and in Oberon / Aos, with distinct names, and still others are in Oberon / Aos but not in native Aos. I needed to grasp the distinction between AosFSTools.Mount and OFSTools.Mount before I could have a USB memory mounted automatically by Aos.Par. Some users must cope with the many names easily. For me it is a bigger challenge than learning the commands in Native Oberon. I am thinking of making parallel lists of the commands in each system with correspondences marked. This will be release -specific but I have no better idea. Has anyone done this already or devised a better aid to learning? Thanks, Peter E. http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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Re (2): [Oberon] "mirroring" of filesystem
by shark＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

Bernhard and André, Postscript b> http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/betadocu.html#diskimage "Cloning is not apt to resize a partition ..." Somewhat cryptic. With the diskette image, the target partition is the same size as the source partition. Presumeably a partition can not be copied to a smaller partition. What happens if a partition is copied to a bigger volume? Thanks, Peter http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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Re (2): [Oberon] "mirroring" of filesystem
by shark＠gulfnet.sd64.bc.ca 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

Bernhard, b> Partitions.PartitionToFile ... ... Partitions.FileToPartition ... Good idea. Thanks. Now that I have a USB memory working, my objective is to maintain a backup on the fixed disk at work and at home. Mirroring at the filesystem level would update the copy of any file on the fixed disk immediately after the copy on the USB is updated. Except for a short delay, the disk update would be invisible. Also, when putting the USB into the home machine after a session at work and _vice versa_, I will want to update the disk. Partitions.* as you suggested, and OFSTools.GenCopyFiles will serve. ... P. http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/

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