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Revisions in Unix.Oberon.NetSystem.Mod
by peter＠easthope.ca 09 Oct '23

09 Oct '23

Hi, A link to the module currently in the archive is in the left column here. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/A2#Oberon.NetSystem My revision of the module is here. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/A2/Unix.Oberon.NetSystem.Mod (1) Setuser in ETH Oberon assumed that the user or user ID did not contain the "@" character. No problem until the user was identified by email address. Consequently NetSystem.SetUser pop:jdoe@something.tld:password@mailhost.com ~ failed by taking everything after the first @ as the host. The limitation was removed by parsing correctly. The improvement was put in the git archive months ago. =8~) (2) From joerg.straube at iaeth.ch Sat Aug 26 18:46:04 2023 > Personally, I would only call the set („user“, „password“) > „Credential“. As you store the host and the service as well, I would > call the bundle of these 4 strings „ServiceLogin“ or „ > ServiceAccess“ or something along these lines. But feel free to call > it „Credential“, if you like. Sound observation. Thanks. After dithering and thought I constrained your suggestion. =8~) Access = POINTER TO AccessDesc; AccessDesc = RECORD service, user, host, passwd: ARRAY 64 OF CHAR; next: Access END; Further debate welcome. =8~) (3) From andreas_pirklbauer at yahoo.com Thu Sep 28 20:26:53 2017 > Local procedures are in fact almost identical to global procedures ... For me, SetUser was one of the more difficult procedures. Four local procedures contributed to the difficulty. So I globalized those procedures. A few additional parameters were needed but the net effect was more evident allocation of responsibility. (4) PROCEDURE State* violated the RETURN-at-the-end rule. Fixed. (5) SetUser involved local variable ok in terminating a WHILE loop. ok occurred in several places in the loop, therefore obfuscating as successfully as multiple RETURNs. =8~/ So I made Next return a success flag, added a loop for Next and removed ok. Again I believe the result is more comprehensible. Debate welcome. =8~) (6) From paulreed at paddedcell.com Sun Aug 12 14:57:20 2018 > But to take Andreas' example of using module Out for this, just replace > the (dynamically-loaded) Out module with a stub version in production. > > I know the *system* is not the same, but at least your compiled code is. > The overhead of the empty call and return is pretty low, at least in a > non-cached system. :) SetUser had a debugging facility before I began tampering. =8~) Specfically, it recognizes "\v" among the access parameters. After finding \v SetUser delivers debug output to System.Log. The switch is used at run time. No risk from changing the executable. (7) I've revised comments and added comments. In some cases changed or deleted only a word. Complaints welcome. (8) SMTP and NNTP connections can be authenticated now. I run the connections through Linux Stunnel. Is a similar tunnel available in A2? Probably I should apologize to Guenter for lack of familiarity with his work. Thanks, ... P.L. . - VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 work: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope

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A2 multi-desktop switching vs. Oberon subsystem.
by peter＠easthope.ca 23 Sep '23

23 Sep '23

>From schierlm at gmx.de Mon Jul 31 22:19:02 2023 > In latest gitlab version, you can either disable global hotkeys > completely by pressing the F12 key, or you can edit Hotkeys.xml ... Guenter Feldmann's LinuxA2 Gen. 64-bit, rev.9799 here. Files > Files > searcher reports no Hotkeys.XML file. After shifting over to the git archive based system, I'll have another look at Hotkeys. No specific plan for that. Until shifted I'm satisfied to disable hotkeys in Configuration.XML. Thanks for explaining, ... P.L. - mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140

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Re (2): Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by peter＠easthope.ca 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

From: Pablo Cayuela <pablo.cayuela(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 14:44:31 -0300 > Restored links to Native Standtalone, Native Dummies, Sparc Solaris Oberon, > Darwin51, Windows 95 NT etc, all to my github. > https://github.com/pcayuela/oldftpETHZOberon Wonderful. Thanks. Good to see the participation. ... P.L. - mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140

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Re (2): Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by peter＠easthope.ca 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

From: Pablo Cayuela <pablo.cayuela(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 13:25:59 -0300 > I've already found links to SharkOberon and MacOberon at the old copy of > the ETHZ FTP site in my github. > I've updated the wiki page: > https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/ETH_Oberon/download There are many links with potential for error. Help with maintenance certainly is appreciated. =8~) Thx, ... P.L. - mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140

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Re: [Oberon] Re (2): Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by Pablo Cayuela 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

No objection! Yes, the first one is for Win 95, NT, etc. The other is only for Win 3.1. On Fri, 22 Sept 2023 at 16:43, <peter(a)easthope.ca> wrote: > From: Pablo Cayuela <pablo.cayuela(a)gmail.com> > Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 12:56:30 -0300 > > I've already updated links pointing to my github that has and old copy of > > ETHZ when it was working. > > The versions referred to are: Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for HP-UX, ... > > Thanks. > > > ... and Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for Windows 3.1. > > Thanks for that also. > > The 2nd table in > https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/ETH_Oberon/download > has lines for Windows and for Windows 3.x. Would the first be > better identified as "Windows NT and Windows 95" rather than > only "Windows"? > > Windows 3.x existed before the other two. My inclination is to > put them in chronological order. Ie. Windows 3.x before Windows NT. > Any objection? > > Thx, ... P.L. > > - > mobile: +1 778 951 5147 > VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon >

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Re (2): Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by peter＠easthope.ca 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

From: Pablo Cayuela <pablo.cayuela(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 12:56:30 -0300 > I've already updated links pointing to my github that has and old copy of > ETHZ when it was working. > The versions referred to are: Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for HP-UX, ... Thanks. > ... and Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for Windows 3.1. Thanks for that also. The 2nd table in https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/ETH_Oberon/download has lines for Windows and for Windows 3.x. Would the first be better identified as "Windows NT and Windows 95" rather than only "Windows"? Windows 3.x existed before the other two. My inclination is to put them in chronological order. Ie. Windows 3.x before Windows NT. Any objection? Thx, ... P.L. - mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140

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Re (2): Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by peter＠easthope.ca 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

From: Chris Burrows <cfbsoftware(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 11:15:46 +1000 > "The PowerMacintosh version, the Linux version, and a somewhat improved > version for Windows and Macintosh are on the Linz server." > > > https://ssw.jku.at/Research/Projects/Oberon.html > ... Thanks Chris. The lines for Linux and for Windows in the table are now consolidated into one. Links updated, including those in the footnote. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/System_Variants#cite_note-Linz-9 In Sourceforge, I didn't notice installation instructions or a README file. Might be inside Oberon.zip. Haven't checked that yet. Thx, ... P.L. - mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140

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Re: [Oberon] Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by Pablo Cayuela 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

I've already updated links pointing to my github that has and old copy of ETHZ when it was working. The versions referred to are: Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for HP-UX, and Oberon System 3 release 2.2 for Windows 3.1. Thank you Peter for your continuous work. Prof. Pablo Cayuela Argentina On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 12:31, <peter(a)easthope.ca> wrote: > Hi, > > In https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/ETH_Oberon/download > many of the links were dead. > > Under heading "Oberon ports no longer updated" Native now refers to > Sourceforge and Github. > > Windows [95NT] now refers to Github. > > What about the other ports? The thesis of Bernard Egger is at > > https://csap.snu.ac.kr/sites/default/files/papers/2001.Egger.Development%20… > Is an installation archive available? > > Windows 3.x? > > MacOS? > > HP-UX? > > Thanks, ... P.L. > > - > mobile: +1 778 951 5147 > VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon >

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Re: [Oberon] Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by Stuff Received 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

On 2023-09-21 11:31, peter(a)easthope.ca wrote: > Hi, > > In https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/ETH_Oberon/download > many of the links were dead. > > Under heading "Oberon ports no longer updated" Native now refers to Sourceforge and Github. > > Windows [95NT] now refers to Github. > > What about the other ports? The thesis of Bernard Egger is at > https://csap.snu.ac.kr/sites/default/files/papers/2001.Egger.Development%20… > Is an installation archive available? > > Windows 3.x? > > MacOS? > > HP-UX? The Solaris/Sparc port runs on Solaris 11.3/Sparc after recompiling the loader code (with archive at https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/oberon/ftp.inf.ethz.ch/ETHOberon/Unix/spa…) Sincerely, S. > > Thanks, ... P.L. > > - > mobile: +1 778 951 5147 > VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 > > -- > Oberon(a)lists.inf.ethz.ch mailing list for ETH Oberon and related systems > https://lists.inf.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/oberon

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Re: [Oberon] Servers for old ETH Oberon ports.
by Chris Burrows 22 Sep '23

22 Sep '23

On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 1:31 AM <peter(a)easthope.ca> wrote: > Hi, > > In https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon/ETH_Oberon/download > many of the links were dead. > > Under heading "Oberon ports no longer updated" Native now refers to > Sourceforge and Github. > > Windows [95NT] now refers to Github. > > What about the other ports? The thesis of Bernard Egger is at > > https://csap.snu.ac.kr/sites/default/files/papers/2001.Egger.Development%20… > Is an installation archive available? > > Windows 3.x? > > MacOS? > > HP-UX? > > "The PowerMacintosh version, the Linux version, and a somewhat improved version for Windows and Macintosh are on the Linz server." https://ssw.jku.at/Research/Projects/Oberon.html ... or the direct download link is: https://ssw.jku.at/Research/Projects/Oberon.zip -- Regards, Chris Burrows CFB Software https://www.astrobe.com

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