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Re: [Oberon] Native24.08.2002:Copy files from FAT-partitions
by fischer＠inf.ethz.ch 21 Sep '02

21 Sep '02

Stefan Salewski <Salewski at physnet.uni-hamburg.de> wrote: > I can mount FAT-16 Partitions, but I can > not find the command to copy files from this > Partition to the Oberon partition. > > Can somebody give me an example? Example: OFSTools.GenCopyFiles SYS: WRK: "SYS:*.Text" ~ produces: System.CopyFiles SYS:Copyright.Text => WRK:Copyright.Text ... ... ~ The command is described a few lines above a section heading "Copy or resize a partition" accessed with the URL: "http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/betadocu.html#copyresize" ~ The section mentioned contains itself an example. Regards André Fischer

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Re.[Oberon] Native24.08.2002:Copy files from FAT-partitions
by cglur＠onwe.co.za 20 Sep '02

20 Sep '02

Stefan Salewski wrote: > I can mount FAT-16 Partitions, but I can > not find the command to copy files from this > Partition to the Oberon partition. > > Can somebody give me an example? For alpha 2001 I get:- Partitions.Show ~ == .... IDE1#01 503MB 6 * DOS FAT16 >= 32M OFSTools.Mount D FatFS IDE0#01 ~ == D: mounted System.Directory D:* == .... D:HDWD84AA.BAK/ <--- just one of the entries .... OFSFATTools.ChangeDir "D:HDWD84AA.BAK/" == { Must use "" chars} Changing directory D:HDWD84AA.BAK/...ok OFSFATTools.CurrentDir D: == Current directory D:/HDWD84AA.BAK/ <-- just to confirm I find this unintuitive D: is now 2 different 'things'. System.Directory D:* == ...... D:PLOT40.STH/ <-- actually: IDE1#01/HDWD84AA.BAK/PLOT40.STH/ ...... OFSFATTools.ChangeDir "D:PLOT40.STH/" == Changing directory D:PLOT40.STH/...ok System.Directory D:* == .... D:MG-REPOT.URL D:APRIL-99.QRY D:JUNE-99.LOG D:CATTEL99.TIM ... Edit.Open D:CATTEL99.TIM or just MM/MR on File name == OK loads D:CATTEL99.TIM to a viewer where you can change its name plate and save to n-o partition. OR System.CopyFiles D:CATTEL99.TIM => FromDOSpartn ~ ?? Can it handle DOS-fileNames ??! Edit.Open "D:JUNE-99.LOG" <___ No!! This is a serious omission ? Reading FAT FS needs to read FAT FileNames, like previous DOS.Copy was able to do. -- Chris Glur.

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Re.[Oberon] TextGadgets.Frame: Linespacing
by cglur＠onwe.co.za 20 Sep '02

20 Sep '02

Patrick.Hunziker(a)unibas.ch Wrote: > I would like to change the linespacing in a text displayed/printed > within a TextGadgets.Frame. I had an unintented increase of line spacing, when I added the "ring a" char of the Swedish alphabet in its free location of Oberon10.Scn.Fnt, via FontEditor.Panel. Apparently this new/additional char was one pixel higher than all others, and the display automagically sets to the highest char. And the line spacing increased accordingly. I'm guessing that if one sets an unused char to 'max-pixel-height' (do this manually to experiment - copy the intended font to Tst.Scn.Fnt) then when you select and Script.ChangeFont Tst.Scn.Fnt, the lines will adjust for the 'bigger dummy char'. Remember to re-boot for the new font library to take effect. Can someone tell how to have the system see the new font/library without rebooting ? -- Chris Glur.

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Is this bug acknowledged and fixed ?
by cglur＠onwe.co.za 20 Sep '02

20 Sep '02

I've tested confirmed this on Vers 2.3.2, 2.3.6, alpha 2001. It concerns operations on a selected text string (eg.copy, delete), after a copy from a text stretch spanning multiple viewer has been done. If the selection of the 'upper' viewer pair is not 'reset' eg. by F9 after the previous copy, a later copy-selected-stretch, is inconsistent. Test by: 1. Use a text viewer with multi-screen-length contents as the copy source. I use Edit.Open type viewer. 2. System.Copy the source viewer. Call the copied viewer 'copied-viewer'. 3. Edit.Open <destinationViewerToSystemTrack> and set caret in it. 4. select 'start-stretch' near top of source viewer and while MR-ing, hold down <Shift>, 5. select 'end-stretch' from lower copied viewer by MR and copy source stretch to destination by interclicking MM. 6. see the selection spanning the 2 source viewers copied to <destinationViewerToSystemTrack> and that the copied text stretch is still hi-lit in both source viewers. 7. attempt to copy various lines from the lower 'copied-viewer': this leaves the hi-lighting of the upper source unchanged, but correctly shows the new selection in the 'copied-viewer'. Dependant on the new selected position in the 'copied-viewer', the 'span starting from the upper source' is included (or not). Scroll further down to select a single line (while leaving the top source unchanged and hi-lit from its previous selection). The apparent inconsistency is that after a "copy from stretch spanning 2 viewers" is done, the following "copy a stretch from the 'copied-viewer' ", may or may not set the selection to begin at the 'top/original viewer'. Also Edit.Search is inconsistent: not always finding the 'most recent selection' - when the top-copy is still hi-lit. Using terminology of the old WordStar 'Block' operation; since n-o does not show an already set block-end or block-begin, I think that only the following contigious sequence should select a 'spanning stretch': A. select upper B. <shift> C. select lower. Ie. after the completed 'Block' operation, both end markers should be removed. And for further 'Block' operations, both end markers should be appropriately reset. This problem is analagous to the 'M$-ape simulation' mode where the double left-mouse click activates (unintentionally). As I remember microsoft has a time-out between the 2 clicks ? With n-o: if I return the next day and set the caret where it already is, I can get an unintended operation, from the second ML. Fortunately F8 allows avoiding completely the 'M$-ape simulation' mode. -- Chris Glur.

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A special case in treating Display.ModifyMsg
by Josef Sedlacek 20 Sep '02

20 Sep '02

Hi together This concerns the alpha version 01.10.11: Let us consider for example a Desktops.DocGadget which is not on top in a Panel (e.g. in Oberon.Desk). When using Desktops.ReplaceDoc (like in Popups.Tool when hitting [ Popups | Applications | Documentation ]) or tracking the gadget with middle mouse button but leaving it then on the same place as before then the gadget is promoted to top (as you can see in Finder) but is not redrawn there. The Display3.Mask is not ok. This behavior is common for all Gadgets.Frame within a Panels.Panel which use the default treatment of Display.ModifyMsg which calls Gadgets.Adjust. Here the Display3.OverlapMsg is disabled when no movement occurs. May be this is already fixed. The following removes the problem but the if statement is not surely the opposite of the if statement in Gadgets.Adjust. Here I had not courage enough to introduce an exported condition test procedure in Gadgets.Mod. In Panels.HandleChildAdjust: Forward; ELSE (* first adjust *) (* bring child to front *) PromoteChild(F, M.F); IF (M.X = M.F.X) & (M.Y = M.F.Y) & (M.W = M.F.W) & (M.H = M.F.H) THEN (* start fix *) InvalidateMasks(F, NIL, M.F.X, M.F.Y, M.F.W, M.F.H) END; (* end fix *) (* *) INCL(F.state0, 31); EXCL(F.state0, 30); Could you please implement this or something better in a next release? Best regards Josef Sedlacek -- Company: Radiar, Dr. J. Sedlacek, CH-7554 Sent Tel: +41 (81) 860 06 60 Fax: +41 (81) 860 06 62

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Native24.08.2002:Copy files from FAT-partitions
by Stefan Salewski 19 Sep '02

19 Sep '02

Hallo, I can mount FAT-16 Partitions, but I can not find the command to copy files from this Partition to the Oberon partition. Can somebody give me an example? Regards Stefan Salewski

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Re: [Oberon] TextGadgets.Frame: Linespacing
by fischer＠inf.ethz.ch 19 Sep '02

19 Sep '02

Hello, Patrick Hunziker <Patrick.Hunziker at unibas.ch> wrote: > It appears that JM (Hannes Marais?)was the module creator: Does anybody known > how to contact him ? > His URL is http://www.hannesmarais.com/ E-mail: me at hannesmarais.com Regards, André Fischer

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TextGadgets.Frame: Linespacing
by Patrick.Hunziker＠unibas.ch 19 Sep '02

19 Sep '02

Hello all I would like to change the linespacing in a text displayed/printed within a TextGadgets.Frame. Presumably, this is connected to the TextGadgets0.Line.asr (or .dsr) variable, although I did not completely understand the source code. The default Line spacing appears to be 120 % of the char height or 12 pts (?) as gleaned from TextGadgets.Mod. However, I was unable to figure out, how to change this linespacing from a user module. Does anybody know ? It appears that JM (Hannes Marais?)was the module creator: Does anybody known how to contact him ? Greetings Patrick ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: igor.urz.unibas.ch

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3C90x Media in Native Oberon
by Stefan Salewski 19 Sep '02

19 Sep '02

Hello, I have installed PC Native Oberon 24.08.02 base system and try to configure Net-System to get additional packages with ftp. In the configuration of BlueBottle there was an entry 3C90xMedia="4", which was necessary for my ethernet-card. How can I select mediatype in PC Native Oberon 24.08.02 ? (I can not look at the source currently, because I have done only basic installation now.) Thanks Stefan Salewski

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Re: [Oberon] partitions extension
by fischer＠inf.ethz.ch 17 Sep '02

17 Sep '02

Hi Carsten and Doug, Holzapfel Carsten wrote: > > it is possible to extend a oberon partition? > > and how can I do that, with a exist Native Oberon, Aos (typ 76) > partition? Douglas G. Danforth replied: > I think you need to buy Partition Magic (for a windows machine) > to extend partitions. Pieter et al, please correct me > if I am wrong here. Oberon offers no tool to resize a partition directly. The technique described in http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/betadocu.html under: Copy or resize a partition is a good substitute and it is remarkably fast (approx. 1'500 files - of the usual Oberon size - transferred in 3 min) Tell us about your experience later, please. Partition Magic is by all means a good workhorse. However, it does not recognize an Oberon partition with its AosFS. -------- Using Partitions.Create to create a partition can be harmful when a Windows partition is present or added: the partition boundary can be the cause of a conflict. André Fischer - fischer at inf.ethz.ch

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