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Re (2): [Oberon] Bug report: Character insert speed in Edit under 8.24 alpha NO
by pat＠picoworks.com 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

I'm using the Vesa 2.0 driver at 1280x1024x16. Partitions.Show returns: Disk: IDE0, 38GB, Maxtor 4D040H2 IDE0#00 39083MB --- (Whole disk) IDE0#01 39072MB 76 * Native Oberon, Aos Disk: IDE2, GetSize: no media, removable, CDU5211 and Partitions.GetConfig ^ with IDE0#01 selected returns Partitions.SetConfig IDE0#01 BootVol="SYS AosFS IDE0#1" AosFS="OFSDiskVolumes.New OFSAosFiles.NewFS" RamFS="OFSRAMVolumes.New OFSAosFiles.NewFS" FatFS="OFSFATVolumes.New OFSFATFiles.NewFS" FileFS="OFSFileVolumes.New OFSAosFiles.NewFS" MT="" MP="" MB="-3" DMASize="14800H" TraceModules="1" Display="Displays." DDriver="DisplayLinear" Init="b8024fbb1a41cd10b8014fb91a01cd10268b4d28268b552a" DWidth="1280" DHeight="1024" DDepth="16" ~ Ok, I've downloaded the profilers, I'll report back later. Thanks, Pat

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Re: [Oberon] Bug report: Character insert speed in Edit under 8.24 alpha NO
by muller＠inf.ethz.ch 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

pat(a)picoworks.com wrote: > I just received a 3C900B-TBO > and so I'm making the switch to standalone Native Oberon. > X-Mailer: Oberon Mail (ejz) on PC Native 24.08.2002 Congrats! > Character insertion under Edit lags normal typing by quit a bit > while Script seems to easily keep up. I've seen this in some cases, but haven't found the cause yet. It might be related to the display driver, because it seems to be restricted to some machines. Which display driver are you using? Check the output of Partitions.GetConfig ^ for your boot partition, or your native.par file if booting via noboot.exe. See if you can set up an experiment to find the problem. You would need to write a test program to broadcast some Oberon.InputMsg consume messages to simulate keyboard input (see how Oberon.Loop does it). Then you can use a profiler to see where the time is spent. There are two (unsupported) profilers for Native: ftp://ftp.inf.ethz.ch/pub/ETHOberon/Contrib/Native/ StatProf.Mod (pjm) and Profiler.Mod (prk) I'll see if they can be added to the release. -- Pieter -- Pieter Muller, Computer Systems Institute, ETH Zurich / MCT Lab, Zurich Native Oberon OS: http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/native/

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Bug report: Character insert speed in Edit under 8.24 alpha NO
by pat＠picoworks.com 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

Character insertion under Edit lags normal typing by quit a bit while Script seems to easily keep up. This is on a 500MHz K6 with 256MB DRAM. I just received a 3C900B-TBO and so I'm making the switch to standalone Native Oberon. I used Oberon quite a bit back when Michael Franz had just ported it to the Mac but time constraints with work prevented my being able to keep up with the system. I must say it's gotten much more mature with a wide range of tools available. It's sad to think it will no longer be supported in the future unless we can get a large enough user base. Anyway it's a great system, the team at ETH has done a great job with it. Thanks Pat Kernel Log follows: ETH Oberon / PC Native 24.08.2002 36 pages allocated, 4 pages reserved PCI Bios32: 000FAF60 ATADisks 08.12.2000 by cp, pjm, prk IDE0..1: 14 000001F0 000003F6 reset ok IDE2..3: 15 00000170 00000376 reset ok Status 00000170 0 0 0 1 60 51 51 C0 40 01 10000 IDE0, 39083MB, 16383*16*63, (79408*16*63), LBA, Maxtor 4D040H2, ver 6.24 IDE2, packet12, removable, CDU5211 OFSDiskVolumes: IDE0xi270000#1 OFSAosFiles: 99% free, forcing disk GC on IDE0#1 OFSAosFiles: Scanning IDE0#1... marking.......... 1358 files 00294BD8 System 0029BD58 Objects 002A25E8 Display 002A60E8 Displays 002AA3E8 DisplayLinear 002AD5C8 MathL 002B01E8 V86 002B1E58 CLUTs 002B7DD8 Input 002BD4D8 V24 002C0E58 Fonts 002C3FD8 Viewers 002C7278 Reals 002C9E68 Texts 002D43B8 Oberon 000528F8 TextFrames 002E9EC8 MenuViewers 002FA568 UsbSystem 002FC298 Usb 00302BD8 UsbUhci 003085F8 UsbMouse 0030ACF8 UsbKeyboard 0030E378 ConfigInput 00312568 Edit 00316D18 Printer 00319D68 Pictures 0031DD48 Bitmaps 00331518 Out 00335128 Centronics

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